@moonbus saidI wonder when his house of cards will finally collapse and leave the nation feeling much as we did every time before 2016 when he talked about running for president. The nation always laughed him off the stage every time he suggested he should run, yet somehow, in 2015, when he came down that golden escalator, some people took him seriously, probably mainly opportunists, and now we have what we saw the other day. The actual reality of the situation.
I apologize for having to remind anybody ... about the reality which is Trump. His mental collapse and moral failure become more apparent each day. The Epstein affair has clearly got him spooked and he is running scared. Pundits on both ends of the spectrum are comparing his recent scream at the nation to Crazy Eddie the used car salesman.
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@moonbus saidBut……see the results of his presidency
Synopsis of what Trump said: boast, boast, lie, some numbers I just made up, exaggerate, boast, lie again, boast again, exaggerate again, America's great only because I'm great, stopped eight wars, lie again, boast some more, everything that's wrong is Biden's fault, lie, some more numbers I just made up, exaggerate some more.
Synopsis of what Trump really meant: [b]for ...[text shortened]... ent imaginary ones). A true leader unites people in a grand vision; totally lacking in Trump's case.
3% GDP growth in Q3 2025, driven by robust consumer spending and major investments in AI, defying predictions of a slowdown despite trade shocks and inflation concerns, though some analysts see signs of Q4 cooling and shifts in consumer savings. This growth, fueled by Americans' continued spending even with pessimistic views, shows significant resilience and outpaces other developed nations, with AI spending boosting business investment and supporting economic expansion.
Key Drivers of Growth:
Consumer Spending: Americans keep spending, particularly on health care, supporting economic activity despite high prices.
AI Investment: Significant capital spending on AI infrastructure provides a major boost to business investment.
Trade Dynamics: Declining imports and rising exports contributed positively to GDP in the third quarter.
Yeah, outpaces all other nations. You are all conflicted , you want him to fail, the economy be dammed.
Hey, you never commented on the shrill voice of oldman Biden.
@AverageJoe1 saidEverytime someone answers you and you don’t like the answer, you act as if they didn’t answer it.
Shav , please. It is such a simple question. So I will rephrase. If if a guy, just a regular guy like Chevy Chase‘s brother in l the Chevy Chase Christmas movie wakes up one day, and says I think I am going to go over to that club and go into the ladies exercise room and say that I am a lady. I’m going to say that I am a woman and I want to exercise in the woman’s room.
...[text shortened]... this would be handled in your society.
You are the man Shav,, we are waiting with baited breath.
You can rephrase it all you want, you’re still not going to like what you hear.
@Suzianne said“I wononnnnnnndderr when his house of caaaards will collapse”.
I wonder when his house of cards will finally collapse and leave the nation feeling much as we did every time before 2016 when he talked about running for president. The nation always laughed him off the stage every time he suggested he should run, yet somehow, in 2015, when he came down that golden escalator, some people took him seriously, probably mainly opportunists, and now we have what we saw the other day. The actual reality of the situation.
I hope you have a happy Chtustmas
@shavixmir saidI’ll ask you again, Be big, And why do you libs make it about me, Shav? It is a general question. I may like the answer, may not, so what? We all want to know. It is how we learn,exchange ideas, RHP perfecto.
Everytime someone answers you and you don’t like the answer, you act as if they didn’t answer it.
You can rephrase it all you want, you’re still not going to like what you hear.
A man goes in to a workout facility labeled Ladies Health Club. A private place, they may be discussing menopause, personal marriage issues, how to get pregnant , whatever. Is this acceptable to you? It is your issue, I simply ask about it.
Be big.
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@AverageJoe1 saidTrump takes credit for things that are not his doing, and shirks off responsibility for anything that doesn’t suit him. Go to any website that fact checked his statements; there are plenty of them: the numbers he cites are mostly fictions, and those that are not fictions have little or nothing to do with him. Furthermore, a booming stock market and major investments in artificial intelligence don’t help the little guy, but only people rich enough to actually invest in stocks. Egregious violations of due process, you gloss over, and multiple federal courts have struck down or reversed many of his policies and executive orders--clearly a president out of control.
But……see the results of his presidency
3% GDP growth in Q3 2025, driven by robust consumer spending and major investments in AI, defying predictions of a slowdown despite trade shocks and inflation concerns, though some analysts see signs of Q4 cooling and shifts in consumer savings. This growth, fueled by Americans' continued spending even with pessimistic views, show ...[text shortened]... o fail, the economy be dammed.
Hey, you never commented on the shrill voice of oldman Biden.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/17/politics/fact-check-trump-prime-time-address
https://apnews.com/article/immigration-sanctuary-city-trump-fema-9c441d9cbe953a8ecd78123f0fe8a64e
@moonbus saidI read this post, you seem to say that all this growth …just happened?
Trump takes credit for things that are not his doing, and shirks off responsibility for anything that doesn’t suit him. Go to any website that fact checked his statements; there are plenty of them: the numbers he cites about a booming economy are mostly fictions, and those that are not fictions have little or nothing to do with him. Furthermore, a booming stock market and maj ...[text shortened]... l intelligence don’t help the little guy, but only people rich enough to actually invest in stocks.
Can you say, with a straight face and with pure commitment, that all of this growth would have occurred if Kamala Harris were president since jan20th?
Moonbus? Make a good discussion, it’s Christmas. Set Sue&Son diversions aside.
Tell us, in your own words.
@AverageJoe1 saidLook at the indicators, Joe:
I read this post, you seem to say that all this growth …just happened?
Can you say, with a straight face and with pure commitment, that all of this growth would have occurred if Kamala Harris were president since jan20th?
Moonbus? Make a good discussion, it’s Christmas. Set Sue&Son diversions aside.
Tell us, in your own words.
https://www.bea.gov/news/glance
Raw growth is not now significantly better than it was under Biden.
US international trade peaked under Biden.
While it is true that US assets have risen under Trump, US liabilities have too, and more so than assets.
And the national debt has skyrocketed under Trump.
Doesn't look so rosy, now, does it?
Now look at the rest of his disastrous presidency so far: even his most devoted acolytes are forced to admit that he lost control of the Epstein narrative. It's no longer about whether he is in the Epstein files; we know he is. It's about losing the fight to keep them secret--a weak president indeed, and the panic is palpable.
In my own words: you have no idea whether the economic indicators would have been better, or worse, or just different, under a Harris presidency. But I can say with a straight face, that democracy itself would not be on the ropes right now, had Harris been inaugurated instead of Trump.
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@moonbus saidWould we have the progress, heralded daily in WSJ, if Kamala had made, or had not made,…..follow me here.. the presidential decisions of this year? Like, how would we be fixed with success if she were president?
Look at the indicators, Joe:
https://www.bea.gov/news/glance
Raw growth is not now significantly better than it was under Biden.
US international trade peaked under Biden.
While it is true that US assets have risen under Trump, US liabilities have too, and more so than assets.
And the national debt has skyrocketed under Trump.
Doesn't look so rosy, now, doe ...[text shortened]... democracy itself would not be on the ropes right now, had Harris been inaugurated instead of Trump.
Why do liberals cause me to continue rewriting the same questions? Really. Have you seen Shav dancing around my simple man-says-he-is-woman question. Pitiful debater.
So answer my Kamala query? Please?
All you say above is “democywould not be on the ropes if K had been inaugurated “. You just ‘say’ that. Like I am spose to respond to a sonHouse baseless opining?!?!?
@AverageJoe1 saidOnly if you promise to learn how to spell.
“I wononnnnnnndderr when his house of caaaards will collapse”.
I hope you have a happy Chtustmas
@AverageJoe1 saidKamala lost.
Would we have the progress, heralded daily in WSJ, if Kamala had made, or had not made,…..follow me here.. the presidential decisions of this year? Like, how would we be fixed with success if she were president?
Why do liberals cause me to continue rewriting the same questions? Really. Have you seen Shav dancing around my simple man-says-he-is-woman question. Pi ...[text shortened]... naugurated “. You just ‘say’ that. Like I am spose to respond to a sonHouse baseless opining?!?!?
Stop rubbing her face in it.
@AverageJoe1 saidThere are people who know far more about this than you do, and guess what?
It is to us, since it is acknowledged among the sane that sex is biological and fixed. (I coulda told ‘em). Medical interventions do not change sex. Feelings do not redefine physical reality. Biological sex and gender is immutable. Could it possibly be that Shav is suggesting that the words, the categoriees of, man and woman could be detached from biology, and be repla ...[text shortened]... onhouse wants to revive Epstein, …..KingMoses says there are photos of Trump involved in something……
None of them agree with you.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou and facts have a nebulous relationship at best.
What did I write that anyone, anyone, would nor agree with? Are these not facts? Immutable?
Give us a well founded answer, only Sonhouse gets to be flamboyant.