Syrian Dictator Flees

@Rajk999 said
In Gaza that war should have ended on October 8th 2024, with about 5 nukes.

You don't have to answer the fascism questionnaire, @Rajk999. We got it. 😆

@spruce112358 said
You don't have to answer the fascism questionnaire, @Rajk999. We got it. 😆

Dont know, neither do I care what your questionaire was about. These terms like fascism, racism and the whole range of phobias have become meaningless. People with some sense have stopped using them.

@sh76 said
===BTW, the Jews have been messing around for 80 years===

In 10 words, you just illustrated perfectly why it's impossible to dialogue with you on any questions related to Israel. Even if that was a semi-joke, you see the whole Israel as a Jewish incursion in the middle east.

Once you start with that given, it's impossible for you to analyze anything related to the subject.

Between 1900 and 1945 the world came to a very important decision. It was a very hard decision and it cost millions of lives to implement, but it was the right decision. It was a decision that flew in the face of ALL of human history - 1000's of years of tradition.

The decision was this: "You don't get to take someone else's land. Not by conquest. Not as a colony. Not by ethnic cleansing. The place people are living right now? That's theirs. They get to live there, raise families, govern themselves. NOBODY gets to move in, tell them what to do, or tell them they have to leave. Nobody."

The goal of course was to create world peace. We took a really important step, too - formed an organization, NATO, with one simple rule: "an attack on one is an attack on all." Too bad NATO only covered certain countries. It should have covered EVERY country. NATO IS the full embodiment of the ideal that "You don't get to take someone else's land, and the most effective force for peace that the world has ever known.

The problem is that while the world was agreeing to all this, creating NATO and such, a bunch of Russian and Polish Jews migrated to Palestine and moved a bunch of Arabs off the land they wanted - in accordance with 1000's of years of humanity's most brutal traditions.

And the world is like, "WTF, Jews? Did you not get the memo?!? We ain't doin' this no more!"

So I totally get what Israel is, the way it was created, the violations of people's rights that occurred. I stand against it. I stand with NATO and world peace. I see Israel as a blood-soaked anachronism in the modern world. That's not the world we paid so many lives to create.

@spruce112358 said
Between 1900 and 1945 the world came to a very important decision. It was a very hard decision and it cost millions of lives to implement, but it was the right decision. It was a decision that flew in the face of ALL of human history - 1000's of years of tradition.

The decision was this: "You don't get to take someone else's land. Not by conquest. Not as a colo ...[text shortened]... blood-soaked anachronism in the modern world. That's not the world we paid so many lives to create.

A bunch of lies. The land called Palestine did not belong to Arabs. It belonged to the British who won it by conquest from the Ottoman Empire, who won it by conquest from some other empire, probably the Byzantine Empire or whoever it was. So get your facts straight instead of lying.

@spruce112358 said
Between 1900 and 1945 the world came to a very important decision. It was a very hard decision and it cost millions of lives to implement, but it was the right decision. It was a decision that flew in the face of ALL of human history - 1000's of years of tradition.

The decision was this: "You don't get to take someone else's land. Not by conquest. Not as a colo ...[text shortened]... blood-soaked anachronism in the modern world. That's not the world we paid so many lives to create.

How polyannish of you.

How many incidents of territory changing hands by force have their been since 1945? Hint: a lot

Half the Jews in Israel were forced our of Arab countries, practically at gunpoint and many of the rest were driven out of Europe by the Nazis and rabid anti-Semitism in Eastern Europe.

If anything, what the world has come to agree to since 1945 it's the right of self-determination and self-rule of various sects and ethnic groups. Of course, except Jews, in the eyes of people like you.

@Rajk999 said
A bunch of lies. The land called Palestine did not belong to Arabs. It belonged to the British who won it by conquest from the Ottoman Empire, who won it by conquest from some other empire, probably the Byzantine Empire or whoever it was. So get your facts straight instead of lying.

The Byzantine Empire, who themselves won it from the Romans (or you can call it the succession of the Eastern Roman Empire, it matters not), who conquered it from... wait for it...

The Jews

@spruce112358 said
"After fleeing Damascus ahead of a rebel advance, Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad and his family have arrived in Moscow and been granted political asylum, an official source in Russia told CNN."

Well that took WAY too long! 😆

But Europeans are dancing in the streets because now they can send all those Syrian refugees back!

Have to get these regime changes in before the Trumper pulls all the US support out of these countries...

Syria
Korea
Ukraine
Georgia
Lebanon
Palestine

Seems Iran and Russia have fewer allies these days....hmmmm

@sh76 said
The Byzantine Empire, who themselves won it from the Romans (or you can call it the succession of the Eastern Roman Empire, it matters not), who conquered it from... wait for it...

The Jews

Of course. The Arabs never owned or controlled any country called Palestine.

@Rajk999 said
A bunch of lies. The land called Palestine did not belong to Arabs. It belonged to the British who won it by conquest from the Ottoman Empire, who won it by conquest from some other empire, probably the Byzantine Empire or whoever it was. So get your facts straight instead of lying.

Arab Rashidun Caliphate took that territory from the Byzantines in 638. The Turks didn’t take it until 1516

Well, that didn't take long. 😆

Remember when I said this (it was, like, 2 days ago):

But I will tell you one mistake the West is about to make - we are really stupid this way, and hypocritical. The West is about to announce (as you more or less did) that certain new Syrian leaders are "unacceptable" because they are "terrorists."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/09/israel-us-and-turkey-launch-strikes-to-protect-interests-in-syria

"Bombing for peace is like fuuking for virginity." Favorite quote. 😆

@spruce112358 said
Well, that didn't take long. 😆

Remember when I said this (it was, like, 2 days ago):

But I will tell you one mistake the West is about to make - we are really stupid this way, and hypocritical. The West is about to announce (as you more or less did) that certain new Syrian leaders are "unacceptable" because they are "terrorists."

https://www.thegu ...[text shortened]... -protect-interests-in-syria

"Bombing for peace is like fuuking for virginity." Favorite quote. 😆

Nothing is wrong with that. The man who is taking over Syria is a known Islamic extremist and will carry Syria further into decline. He will quite likely create war with Israel. The US and Turkey have their reasons for interfering but Israel's aim is to destroy military capability, and chemical weapons.

@Rajk999 said
Nothing is wrong with that. The man who is taking over Syria is a known Islamic extremist and will carry Syria further into decline. He will quite likely create war with Israel. The US and Turkey have their reasons for interfering but Israel's aim is to destroy military capability, and chemical weapons.

It would be like Mexico and Canada bombing US military bases before Trump takes over. 😆

It won't happen, of course, because Mexico and Canada are reasonable. But would there be "nothing wrong with that?"

I think I have to add a problem to the people World along with "angry resentment." "Unprincipled."

The world has become angry, resentful, and completely abandoned the notion of principled behavior. Basically, anything goes if it feels good to me. 😆

@spruce112358 said
It would be like Mexico and Canada bombing US military bases before Trump takes over. 😆

It won't happen, of course, because Mexico and Canada are reasonable. But would there be "nothing wrong with that?"

I think I have to add a problem to the people World along with "angry resentment." "Unprincipled."

The world has become angry, resentful, and completely abandoned the notion of principled behavior. Basically, anything goes if it feels good to me. 😆

Nonsense. There is no reason for Mexico or Canada to bomb the US. It has nothing to do with them being reasonable.

@Rajk999 said
Nonsense. There is no reason for Mexico or Canada to bomb the US. It has nothing to do with them being reasonable.

Mexico and Canada will not bomb the US, despite the threats Trump makes against them. 😆

Because they are reasonable!

But we bomb Syria, even though no Syrian has made any threats against us, because it feels good. We feel REALLY, REALLY good bombing other countries that have done nothing "just in case."

And you think Americans are not psychopaths. We are. We've lost our GD minds... 😆

@spruce112358 said
Mexico and Canada will not bomb the US, despite the threats Trump makes against them. 😆

Because they are reasonable!

But we bomb Syria, even though no Syrian has made any threats against us, because it feels good. We feel REALLY, REALLY good bombing other countries that have done nothing "just in case."

And you think Americans are not psychopaths. We are. We've lost our GD minds... 😆

What threats did Trump make against them? Please provide a reliable source because you are not a one. Thanks