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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_alaska_senate
The Tea Party has for the first time beaten a sitting Republican Senator in the state primary in Alaska. Lisa Murkowski was the Republican victim this time around. She was beaten by a man named Joe Miller who was supported by the Tea Party movement.
So I suppose both those in the right and left are happy. After all, those on the right are seeing more convervative representatives and those on the left can rest assured that the Tea Party is way too radical to ever win a general election. After all, these radicals think that our bloating federal government needs to go on a permanent diet when it is really the source of our collective salvation and as such, it needs to continue to grow.
01 Sep 10
Originally posted by whodeywait a cotton picken minute!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_alaska_senate
The Tea Party has for the first time beaten a sitting Republican Senator in the state primary in Alaska. Lisa Murkowski was the Republican victim this time around. She was beaten by a man named Joe Miller who was supported by the Tea Party movement.
So I suppose both those in the right and left are happy. A ...[text shortened]... n it is really the source of our collective salvation and as such, it needs to continue to grow.
I thought the tea party was not grass roots but "astro turf"
Made by the GOP?! 🙄
01 Sep 10
Originally posted by whodeyI think most people are convinced that no Tea Party candidate can win a presidential election (for which you need to be a moderate or at least have such a reputation), not that they can't win a Republican primary.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_alaska_senate
The Tea Party has for the first time beaten a sitting Republican Senator in the state primary in Alaska. Lisa Murkowski was the Republican victim this time around. She was beaten by a man named Joe Miller who was supported by the Tea Party movement.
So I suppose both those in the right and left are happy. A ...[text shortened]... n it is really the source of our collective salvation and as such, it needs to continue to grow.
01 Sep 10
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Originally posted by KazetNagorraOk then, they can elect another Bush or Obama. Enjoy America!! 😀
I think most people are convinced that no Tea Party candidate can win a presidential election (for which you need to be a moderate or at least have such a reputation), not that they can't win a Republican primary.
01 Sep 10
Originally posted by whodeyThis reminds me, I was watching one of "W"'s political advisors the other day on TV and he was trashing the Tea Party. He basically called them all a bunch of idiots. I could not help but sit there and think, "But, but, but you adivsed "W". LMAO!!
Ok then, they can elect another Bush or Obama. Enjoy America!! 😀
01 Sep 10
Originally posted by whodeyWe need 3 parties in this country:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_alaska_senate
The Tea Party has for the first time beaten a sitting Republican Senator in the state primary in Alaska. Lisa Murkowski was the Republican victim this time around. She was beaten by a man named Joe Miller who was supported by the Tea Party movement.
So I suppose both those in the right and left are happy. A ...[text shortened]... n it is really the source of our collective salvation and as such, it needs to continue to grow.
1) Tea Party
2) Centrists like Lieberman and Ben Nelson and Snowe and Collins and Scott Brown; in other words, the RINO-Blue Dog party (catchy name, no?)
3) Rest of the Democrats
01 Sep 10
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Originally posted by sh76the RINOs and the Blue Dogs have had ample opportunity over the past two years to rebel against their party "leaders" and form a powerful coalition in Congress and have failed to do so.
We need 3 parties in this country:
1) Tea Party
2) Centrists like Lieberman and Ben Nelson and Snowe and Collins and Scott Brown; in other words, the RINO-Blue Dog party (catchy name, no?)
3) Rest of the Democrats
So we're pretty much stuck with the two lousy parties that we got.
01 Sep 10
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Originally posted by KazetNagorrathe only thing worse than the current two party system would be a system where we had a large number of single-issue parties all squabbling about their pet causes.
You need at least ten!
the best system might be to have the two main parties along with a strong tradition of voting for independent non-partisan candidates if neither of the two parties produced acceptable candidates.
01 Sep 10
Originally posted by MelanerpesA multi-party system is great! We've had elections in early June and still no new government. 😉
the only thing worse than the current two party system would be a system where we had a large number of single-issue parties all squabbling about their pet causes.
the best system might be to have the two main parties along with a strong tradition of voting for independent non-partisan candidates if neither of the two parties produced acceptable candidates.
01 Sep 10
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the problem is that it seems like all of these multi-party systems insist that there needs to be a majority coalition of some sort in the legislature before a government can be formed -- (as well as the "no-confidence" votes that can bring governments crashing down at any time) -- why not just have a separate election for president and let whoever wins form his government regardless of the legislature's makeup?
01 Sep 10
Originally posted by MelanerpesSounds similar to the Finnish system, though I'm not sure how much power the Finnish president has.
the problem is that it seems like all of these multi-party systems insist that there needs to be a majority coalition of some sort in the legislature before a government can be formed -- (as well as the "no-confidence" votes that can bring governments crashing down at any time) -- why not just have a separate election for president and let whoever wins form his government regardless of the legislature's makeup?
01 Sep 10
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Originally posted by KazetNagorraIn the US, a single member district system is necessary because of the size of the country and the parochial nature of the interests of people of various areas. SMD systems make it difficult to support many parties. Even 3 may be pushing it.
In all seriousness, about four or five is probably sufficient to do justice to the different camps in the political spectrum.