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http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2037077

"A 13-year-old pitcher was accused of clubbing a teenage friend to death with a baseball bat, moments after the friend apparently teased him at a concession stand following his baseball team's first loss of the season."

This is getting pretty ridiculous. I thought the parents of these kids were bad. You would think at the age of 13 someone would be capable of knowing that hurting your friend isn't a smart thing to do.

So, who is responsible? Is the kid to blame? The parents? The league?

Did anyone on here ever get mad enough to kill an opposing player while playing little league?



mike

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Originally posted by mikebec20
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2037077

"A 13-year-old pitcher was accused of clubbing a teenage friend to death with a baseball bat, moments after the friend apparently teased him at a concession stand following his baseball team's first loss of the season."

This is getting pretty ridiculous. I thought the parents of these kids we ...[text shortened]... on here ever get mad enough to kill an opposing player while playing little league?



mike
Being a teenager is difficult enough without people being so judgmental. :'(

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Originally posted by Coletti
Being a teenager is difficult enough without people being so judgmental. :'(
the intention was not to be judgemental. i apologize if it came off like that. but still, does having it rough as a teenager excuse the kid's actions?

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Originally posted by mikebec20
the intention was not to be judgemental. i apologize if it came off like that. but still, does having it rough as a teenager excuse the kid's actions?
No. I was being sardonic. But it's hard to convey tone in one sentence. Not your fault.

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Originally posted by mikebec20
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2037077

Did anyone on here ever get mad enough to kill an opposing player while playing little league?



mike
It was a teammate! The 15yr old victim cut in line and teased the 13 yr old for losing the game (he was the pitcher) so the kid pulled out a bat whacked him in the knees then clubbed him in the head.

How can anyone but the kid be responsible for that?

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Originally posted by ChessNut
How can anyone but the kid be responsible for that?
there has to be some underlying cause here. the parents of the victim said the boy was not "a monster." No history of violence had been recorded.

I just got done watching the BoSox/Yanks game where Gary Sheffield got mad at the fans and took a swing/push at them during the game. He fields the ball, wacks the fans, and throws the ball to the cutoff man. And we all saw what happened between the Pistons and Pacers. So is there some connection between violence and sports now? What kind of crap are these professional "role models" teaching our youth.

Understand that I am not blaming someone else for this event. However, i do believe that there are many causes that could've triggered it.

mike


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Originally posted by mikebec20
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2037077

"A 13-year-old pitcher was accused of clubbing a teenage friend to death with a baseball bat, moments after the friend apparently teased him at a concession stand following his baseball team's first loss of the season."

This is getting pretty ridiculous. I thought the parents of these kids we ...[text shortened]... on here ever get mad enough to kill an opposing player while playing little league?



mike
mcon did he just givm a god "PING" and he died.. or did he like hitm a few times.. or so repedative his brains wer being splashed all over the observers?.. it makes a difference...

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Originally posted by mikebec20
So is there some connection between violence and sports now?
No, it's just between adrenaline and violence...

MÅ¥HÅRM

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Originally posted by mikebec20
You would think at the age of 13 someone would be capable of knowing that hurting your friend isn't a smart thing to do.
two questions spring to mind:

At the age of 13 are you mature enogh to realise that hitting someone in the head might actually kill them? I remember at the same age I hit someone with a small batton, not very hard, and it did much more damage than I realised it would or intended. I'd have to see more details of the case, but there'd be a large difference between him hitting him once or twice with the intention of hurting him or once to multiple times with the intention of killing him.

At the age of 13 have all kids matured enough to fully realise the implications of what killing someone means? When we are bombarded with images on TV and PC such as the hero killing people left, right & centre, who then are instantly forgotten or even slowly fade out to non-existance it is believeable that a kid might not realise what makig somone dead really means.

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Farkin liberal pukes making up excuses for that kid.
I would freakin want him fried in the electric chair if it was my son he killed. I would probably kill the kid myself if it was my son he killed.

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Originally posted by Weadley
Farkin liberal pukes making up excuses for that kid.
I would freakin want him fried in the electric chair if it was my son he killed. I would probably kill the kid myself if it was my son he killed.
And if it was your son who killed the other guy you'd be happy to watch him fry, yeah?

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Well Dk I am a man. And I'm raising my son to be a man.
If my son had lost the game and then someone on his team teased him and cut in front of him and made him mad enough to act out my son would have jumped on him and punched him some or wrestled him to the ground and spat in his face at the most.

What is your farkin problem? Oh wait your a liberal worm infested bucket of snake shat arent you? I see now. Thanks.
You lose. Please play again.

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OK I'll give the kid the benefit of a doubt. Best case scenario: He hit the kid in the leg then went to whack him in the back or shoulder and took out his head accidently.

If that were the case then that kid should go to a juvenile detention until hes 18 and get farked up the arse by some kid who killed his mom because she was vacuming during his cartoons.

This crap im reading about ,hes 13 maybe he doesnt know what dead means! That is just so... so..... well I dunno... European?

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Originally posted by Weadley
OK I'll give the kid the benefit of a doubt. Best case scenario: He hit the kid in the leg then went to whack him in the back or shoulder and took out his head accidently.

If that were the case then that kid should go to a juvenile dete ...[text shortened]... dead means! That is just so... so..... well I dunno... European?
Woah, hold on there Weadley, wipe the spittle from your mouth and calm down a sec..

I don't agree with the crap that a 13 year old doesn't know what hes doing.

He killed a kid. He ruined some family. He should be punished, accident or not.
I just don't think he should fry. Maybe like u said stick him in a juvinile prision for a coupla years and see what that does to him temperment.

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Originally posted by Weadley
Well Dk I am a man. And I'm raising my son to be a man.
If my son had lost the game and then someone on his team teased him and cut in front of him and made him mad enough to act out my son would have jumped on him and punched him some or ...[text shortened]... e shat arent you? I see now. Thanks.
You lose. Please play again.
Weadley you didn't answer the question. Would you hold your son to the same penalty that you'd hold a child that killed your son? I'm a proponent of the death penalty under some circumstances, however, they are limited and I'd be willing to pay the penalty if it ever came to that. To kill someone is a terrible thing you take away everyting they are and everything they ever wil be. Still, some people have it coming.

In this case I think BF makes a great point at thirteen your only just becoming aware that your actions have lasting consequences (some people never learn this). Still I remember around 13, in a fit of righteous indignation, bashing a classmate with a significant sized piece of asphalt that happened to be handy. I was shocked at how much damage it caused and how fragile another person could be. I would imagine that unless this kid has serious sociopathic tendencies that he is equally shocked at the results of his actions. <edit> There should still be serious penalties imposed on this kid as well, not to mention civil action.

More importantly, while I appreciate teaching your kids to defend themselves, shouldn't you be teaching them to try to resolve conflict in a civilized way first. Walk softly and carry a big stick always seemed like a sensible policy too me.