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Originally posted by Metal Brain
How high does inflation have to be to considered hyperinflation?
There isn't a strict level, but during recognized hyperinflations annual inflation rates have often been in the tens of thousands. Others, like the German post-WWI hyperinflation, were much worse. According to [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation]wiki[/url] the inflation rate got as high as 3,250,000% per month!

The 1970's in the US were an example of stagflation which is when you have high inflation (at least by US standards) and also high unemployment (also by US standards). Before that time, stagflation was believed by many to be impossible based of off the Phillips Curve that said that unemployment and inflation had an inverse relationship.

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Originally posted by telerion
There isn't a strict level, but during recognized hyperinflations annual inflation rates have often been in the tens of thousands. Others, like the German post-WWI hyperinflation, were much worse. According to [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation]wiki[/url] the inflation rate got as high as 3,250,000% per month!

The 1970's in the US were ...[text shortened]... off the Phillips Curve that said that unemployment and inflation had an inverse relationship.
I'll resist calling the coming inflation hyper. Stagflation would be an acceptable term to describe what I expect to happen.

I was looking into bank panics and I ran across the bank panic of 1819 and saw some similar problems to what we have today.

http://americanhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_panic_of_1819

There is also talk of replacing the US dollar with SDRs as the world reserve currency. I think it was mentioned in the Money Masters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUSTRE52M5UZ20090323

Given your economic background I thought you might find these sites of interest.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
Shavixmir, did this debate give you most of the answers you were looking for?
I'm still looking into it all.
It's very complicated and I don't have much time.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
No. how did you come to that conclusion?
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/cpi/cpiai.txt

Volatility in inflation was much higher. By the way, take a look at what happened to relative gold prices recently. If the volatility of gold prices is much higher than CPI, then certainly one would expect that adopting gold would increase volatility, not decrease it.

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Originally posted by Palynka
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/cpi/cpiai.txt

Volatility in inflation was much higher. By the way, take a look at what happened to relative gold prices recently. If the volatility of gold prices is much higher than CPI, then certainly one would expect that adopting gold would increase volatility, not decrease it.
I never said I wanted the gold standard back.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
I never said I wanted the gold standard back.
So what do you want?

There is no gold standard in this country anymore. Coins lose value to inflation, gold does not. Do not listen to people who think coins made of nickel, copper and zinc are the same as gold and silver. Fractional reserve banking with no gold standard is a horrible way to run an economic system.

How horrible is it, if it's the best so far?

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Originally posted by Palynka
So what do you want?

There is no gold standard in this country anymore. Coins lose value to inflation, gold does not. Do not listen to people who think coins made of nickel, copper and zinc are the same as gold and silver. Fractional reserve banking [b]with no gold standard
is a horrible way to run an economic system.

How horrible is it, if it's the best so far?[/b]
Did you read the Ron Paul article?

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
Did you read the Ron Paul article?
Yes. Did you bother to look at the facts?

You've done nothing but deflect. Under the gold standard, inflation was more volatile than now. Do you acknowledge this fact?

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Originally posted by Palynka
Yes. Did you bother to look at the facts?

You've done nothing but deflect. Under the gold standard, inflation was more volatile than now. Do you acknowledge this fact?
Was that always the case?

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Originally posted by Palynka
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/cpi/cpiai.txt

Volatility in inflation was much higher. By the way, take a look at what happened to relative gold prices recently. If the volatility of gold prices is much higher than CPI, then certainly one would expect that adopting gold would increase volatility, not decrease it.
Could you provide a link with the percentage of CPI?

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
Could you provide a link with the percentage of CPI?
http://www.financialsense.com/metals/cpiadjusted.html

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Originally posted by Palynka
http://www.financialsense.com/metals/cpiadjusted.html
I didn't mean precious metals. The link you provided before was not calculated in percentage terms. I am not big on number crunching if it is not necessary.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
I didn't mean precious metals. The link you provided before was not calculated in percentage terms. I am not big on number crunching if it is not necessary.
What exactly do you want? If it's CPI inflation in percentage terms then you have the last two columns of my first link. For monthly ones, you'll have to calculate them yourself, but it's easy to see by eye-balling that volatility was much higher then.

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Originally posted by Palynka
What exactly do you want? If it's CPI inflation in percentage terms then you have the last two columns of my first link. For monthly ones, you'll have to calculate them yourself, but it's easy to see by eye-balling that volatility was much higher then.
There was 215.3% inflation in 2008???

I support raising reserve requirements of banks. It would help reduce bank failures and help reduce monetary inflation by credit.

I also think a limited form of free banking might work. Sweden had some success in that area in the past. I don't think the federal reserve should have a monopoly in the issuance of bank notes. If it was competitive it would provide incentive to keep inflation under control or nobody would use those bank's bank notes.

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Here is something I copied from the GCN live website. This would be a great first step.
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HR 1207 Co-sponsorship Skyrockets: Companion Bill in Senate

Ron Paul's "Federal Reserve Transparency Act" to audit the Federal Reserve is now up to 39 co-sponsors the House, and an identical companion bill, S604, has been introduced in the Senate. Here are the House co-sponsors:

Young (R-AK), McClintock (R-CA), Woolsey (D-CA), Rohrabacher (R-CA), Castle (R-DE), Stearns (R-FL), Grayson (D-FL), Buchanan (R-FL), Posey (R-FL), Kingston (R-GA), Price (R-GA), Broun (R-GA), Abercrombie (D-HI), Burton (R-IN), Fleming (R-LA), Alexander (R-LA), Bartlett (R-MD), McCotter (R-MI), Bachmann (R-MN), Peterson (D-MN), Akin (R-MO), Taylor (D-MS), Rehberg (R-MT), Jones (R-NC), Foxx (R-NC), Garrett (R-NJ), Heller (R-NV), DeFazio (D-OR), Platts (R-PA), Duncan (R-TN), Wamp (R-TN), Blackburn (R-TN), Poe (R-TX), Paul (R-TX), Marchant (R-TX), Burgess (R-TX), Chaffetz (R-UT), Petri (R-WI), Kagen (D-WI), Lummis (R-WY)

32 Republicans and 7 Democrats so far. Urge your Representative to co-sponsor