Originally posted by ScriabinI like a lot of the points you make Scriabin and find your posts interesting, but the insults are becoming predictable and tiresome. I await my turn.
Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. And which dwarf are you? Here I was thinking that artificial intelligence beats real stupidity.
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Originally posted by SleepyguyOk, now we got that out of the way, just what did O'Neil say that you failed to understand?
LOL. Yes I am fulfilled. Thank you.
You did see the quote from the Bush aide?
You do realize that this outgoing Administration subverted verifiable factual scientific inquiry as the basis for fact-based decision making?
For example, reports by environmental scientists at more than one supposedly independent regulatory agency were altered to agree with ideologically correct, political positions of the Administration, even when the facts were quite otherwise?
I can support this statement with a long list of boring details, but suffice it to cite the recent example of Ammonium Perchlorate -- the rocket fuel in the solid boosters that lift the shuttle. The Administration suppressed EPA's own scientific assessment of the risk posed by a given level of that substance in drinking water as it affects unborn children. But, because of the truly enormous size of the legal liability the federal government bears for contaminating the water supplies fed by the entire Colorado River system, the risk level was set way too high and the decision announced by EPA that it would not set a regulatory maximum contamination level for perchlorate.
The EPA inspector general reported within the last few weeks that this decision by EPA's Administrator, Stephen Johnson, was contrary to EPA's own procedures, as well as scientifically invalid. EPA withdrew its decision not to regulate perchlorate immediately and the issue will be decided in the next Administration.
Why is this important? Perchlorate ingestion suppresses the thyroid to such a degree as to equal the ill effects of iodide deficiency that bred thousands upon thousands of cretinous children in the early 20th century before introduction of iodized salt. Iodide deficiency disease is the 4th leading deficiency disease worldwide.
Did you ever wonder what life would have been like for you if you had had sufficient iodide at birth? Hmmmmm?
Originally posted by ScriabinAlmost very good. Too many words. Almost massive retort. Almost. Big words. Flashy something. Almost, Massive. Can I have your autograph?
I only mention it as a means to promote a powerful inducement to industry. Shall we conduct a concertation? I should add that I am not a freemason.
Originally posted by ScriabinThe shuttle is done flying, What good does it do to tell us it's fuel is naughty?
Ok, now we got that out of the way, just what did O'Neil say that you failed to understand?
You did see the quote from the Bush aide?
You do realize that this outgoing Administration subverted verifiable factual scientific inquiry as the basis for fact-based decision making?
For example, reports by environmental scientists at more than one supposed ...[text shortened]... er what life would have been like for you if you had had sufficient iodide at birth? Hmmmmm?
Originally posted by Scriabin
You did see the quote from the Bush aide?
Yes I saw the quote from the Bush aide. I wonder who that was. On it's face it looks like a pretty stupid comment, though I really don't trust the NYT to provide the context for the quote. They are as guilty as anyone when it comes to creating their own favorite version of reality.
Still I get his point. The bush admin was not always open and honest, and he hopes Obama's will be. How original. I think he could have gotten that across without a quote from Saul Bellow, the wavy camera effects, or getting into a discussion of empiricism.
So not hogwash really, but sickeningly pretentious in the delivery, and boring.
Did you ever wonder what life would have been like for you if you had had sufficient iodide at birth? Hmmmmm?
Seriously man, a good insult can be entertaining now and then, but I think you're just cutting and pasting them from a website (with slight alterations perhaps). I suggest you space them out a bit so as not to dilute the effect. Your constant barrage is undermining your message, "if I may".
Originally posted by MerkYou appear to have the mind of a 4 yr old and I'm sure he was glad to get rid of it.
The shuttle is done flying, What good does it do to tell us it's fuel is naughty?
You might have taken the trouble to find out why perchlorate is a threat nationwide in the US.
36 states are facing the growing threat from perchlorate contamination. Perchlorate is a chemical that is used in rocket fuel, fireworks and defense manufacturing that has contaminated water supplies in areas around the country, and, through irrigation, produce grown in those areas and sold around the nation.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEPCON_disaster
The Colorado river basin was contaminated by the 1988 explosion at what was then the PEPCON perchlorate plant. There were a total of seven explosions during the accident, with the two largest measuring at 3.0 and 3.5 on the Richter scale. More than eight million pounds of the product were consumed in the fire and explosions, creating a crater 15 feet deep and 200 feet long in the storage area.
see the video of the explosion!!
See also www.epa.gov/fedfac/pdf/PerchlorateFifthMonRpt_062004.pdf
www.epa.gov/region09/toxic/perchlorate/index.html
Perchlorate Emerging as a Likely Arizona Water Quality Issue
The perchlorate contamination of the lower Colorado River is traced to a chemical manufacturing facility located outside of Las Vegas,
ag.arizona.edu/AZWATER/awr/novdec03/feature1.html
Originally posted by SleepyguyNot always open and honest? The Bush Administration has repeatedly manipulated scientific committees and suppressed science. I know this from personal experience. No less an authority than Russell Train, who served as EPA Administrator to Presidents Nixon and Ford, wrote in a letter to the New York Times:
Originally posted by Scriabin
[b]You did see the quote from the Bush aide?
Yes I saw the quote from the Bush aide. I wonder who that was. On it's face it looks like a pretty stupid comment, though I really don't trust the NYT to provide the context for the quote. They are as guilty as anyone when it comes to creating their own favorite ve ...[text shortened]... not to dilute the effect. Your constant barrage is undermining your message, "if I may".[/b]
"I can state categorically that there never was such White House intrusion into the business of the E.P.A. during my tenure. The E.P.A. was established as an independent agency in the executive branch, and so it should remain. There appears today to be a steady erosion in its independent status. I can appreciate the president’s interest in not having discordant voices within his Administration. But the interest of the American people lies in having full disclosure of the facts, particularly when the issue is one with such potentially enormous damage to the long-term health and economic well-being of all of us."
Ah, but you are indeed differently clued if you do not count yourself among those of us who remain in the reality-based community.
Originally posted by ScriabinI'm sorry. You missed my question. You said the shuttles fuel was naughty and I asked what good it does to tell us now that the shuttle is out of service.
You appear to have the mind of a 4 yr old and I'm sure he was glad to get rid of it.
You might have taken the trouble to find out why perchlorate is a threat nationwide in the US.
36 states are facing the growing threat from perchlorate contamination. Perchlorate is a chemical that is used in rocket fuel, fireworks and defense manufacturing that has c ...[text shortened]... uring facility located outside of Las Vegas,
ag.arizona.edu/AZWATER/awr/novdec03/feature1.html
Originally posted by SeitseMopped the floor with me? You mean he typed out one of his 'sharp tongued insults' and clicked on Post? Appealed to your keen mind, did it?
Scriabin truly mopped the floor with you in another thread with that same phrase. Does it ache still? LOL You should consider changing to other forums.