1. SubscriberWajoma
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    06 Mar '18 09:09
    Originally posted by @suzianne

    The mark of a good life is not what one becomes in life, but in the people one meets along the way, and the impact you have on their lives. I'd rather be remembered fondly by the people I meet than to get to the end of my life and have to keep saying to anyone who will listen, "Look what I did. I was important."
    Bad advice from suzi, do not live your life seeking the approval of others as she says here.

    But rather live a moral honest life, the approval of others if they themselves are moral and honest will be a consequence not a motive.
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    06 Mar '18 13:581 edit
    Originally posted by @mchill
    Back in high school I observed 2 students with amazing intellectual potential. Super grades, sky high college board scores, and nearly photographic memories. One was a girl whose only goal in life was to get married and have 2 kids, which she did, and other than raising 2 daughters, she did little else than work in a local supermarket. The other was a young ...[text shortened]... ellects that hold them back, while others with brilliant minds wander aimlessly into mediocrity?
    You can see, but you are still blind.

    So what kind of daughters did she raise? Are they doing well? Are they "good" people? Does she have a "good" marriage?

    It should be noted that many "gifted" people in this world do well in their respective fields, but have abysmal personal lives and made horrible parents and/or mates.

    But I understand your view because it is the view of the world, and that is, the only worth we have is our material worth and the ability to materially enhance the lives of others.

    It helps explain why you are a left winger, for they, like Marx, equate our existence down to a struggle for material possessions.

    How empty and pathetic is that?
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    06 Mar '18 14:26
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    Bad advice from suzi, do not live your life seeking the approval of others as she says here.

    But rather live a moral honest life, the approval of others if they themselves are moral and honest will be a consequence not a motive.
    Nonetheless, being "important" is morally neutral, at best.
  4. SubscriberSuzianne
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    07 Mar '18 10:39
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    Bad advice from suzi, do not live your life seeking the approval of others as she says here.

    But rather live a moral honest life, the approval of others if they themselves are moral and honest will be a consequence not a motive.
    I said nothing of motive, jackass. In fact, I was saying that approval from others is the least important thing one should live their lives by. I was saying that one should be judged by others, and never themselves. You had to twist this into "seeking approval". What a sad little man you must be.

    How does it feel to be so horribly, desperately wrong all the time?
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    07 Mar '18 11:38
    There are so many reasons why very smart people don't achieve and why mediocrity reigns supreme.

    I remember once being told that society's methods of schooling (whether you agree with it or not) are aimed at producing specialists: people who exceed at doing a certain job. University sometimes being the exception.

    And then I was explained that there are two types of very intelligent people.
    People with a specialized intelligence (specific interests) and generalists.
    People with specific interests / specialized intelligence do very well at college and university.
    People who are intelligent, but generalist, don't do well at higher education, but generally end up doing 3 year courses, etc.

    The intelligent generalists are the people on the work floor who do average jobs, usually expanding on their own tasks, and are deemed exceedingly competent.

    Finally, what I was told, was that the world would be a better place where work and education was fit towards the needs of intelligent generalists.

    Don't know.
    I can hardly tie my own bloody shoelaces.
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    07 Mar '18 12:12
    Originally posted by @whodey
    You can see, but you are still blind.

    So what kind of daughters did she raise? Are they doing well? Are they "good" people? Does she have a "good" marriage?

    It should be noted that many "gifted" people in this world do well in their respective fields, but have abysmal personal lives and made horrible parents and/or mates.

    But I understand your vi ...[text shortened]... te our existence down to a struggle for material possessions.

    How empty and pathetic is that?
    Is it more or less empty and pathetic than reducing every, single topic to a "left vs. right" issue?
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    07 Mar '18 15:06
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    I said nothing of motive, jackass.

    ...

    What a sad little man you must be.

    How does it feel to be so horribly, desperately wrong all the time?
    You are better than that, suzianne.

    In fact, I was saying that approval from others is the least important thing one should live their lives by. I was saying that one should be judged by others, and never themselves. You had to twist this into "seeking approval".

    If you're letting them judge you at all, you will get their approval or disapproval. If you don't care about others' approval, why pay attention to their judgement? Asking for a judgement and seeking approval come down to the same thing, unless you're Morticia Addams and seek their disapproval instead.

    This is quite apart from the realisation that whatever you do, and whether you care about it, others will judge you, approve or disapprove of you, and behave towards you accordingly. Taking that into account is only sane; basing your own opinion of the value of your life and achievements only or even mainly on that judgement is not.
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    07 Mar '18 22:362 edits
    Originally posted by @whodey
    You can see, but you are still blind.

    So what kind of daughters did she raise? Are they doing well? Are they "good" people? Does she have a "good" marriage?

    It should be noted that many "gifted" people in this world do well in their respective fields, but have abysmal personal lives and made horrible parents and/or mates.

    But I understand your vi ...[text shortened]... te our existence down to a struggle for material possessions.

    How empty and pathetic is that?
    But I understand your view because it is the view of the world, and that is, the only worth we have is our material worth and the ability to materially enhance the lives of others.

    It helps explain why you are a left winger, for they, like Marx, equate our existence down to a struggle for material possessions.

    How empty and pathetic is that?


    Let's see.

    The "right winger" is much more likely to horde material wealth instead of freely sharing it with his fellow human beings.

    The "left winger" is much less likely to horde material wealth and instead freely share it with it with his fellow human beings.

    But in your mind it is the "left winger" who has the view of the world wherein "the only worth we have is our material worth" and has an "empty and pathetic" view?

    As always, you're really something whodey. Do the teachings of Jesus mean absolutely nothing to you?
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