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Originally posted by Redmike
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1131985.html

I don't accept your point about 'empty land', but I do agree that it is a different debate.

But the situation in E Jerusalem seems clear to me.
Yes, evicting Palestinians from their homes in E. Jerusalem, so far as it occurs, it also despicable.

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give it up. the people in power aren't affected. nothing will happen without armed overthrow. and little people will lose then, too.

if they WERE really all that altruistic, the govts of Israel, Palestine, Syria, et. al. might step down and accept imposition of a UN authority. think that's gonna happen?

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Originally posted by DrKF
Nonsense. What has happened in those instances is almost certainly rooted in anti-Semitism, and it is deplorable.

As, of course, is the expropriation of Palestinian land.
Yes, I know. I was merely saying that idiotic responses like these should be on the way. I know, because I have debated these types of responses repeatidly.

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Originally posted by whodey
But what we are witnessing is NOT anti-semitism, rather, it is anti-zionism, thus, politically correct and understandable.
For someone who throws out accusations of anti-semitism so easily, you seem to have an impaired understanding of what anti-semitism is.

Oh yea, I almost forgot FMF. Hey FMF, would Hitler do such a thing. Now if Hitler, Ghandi, Obama, and Christ all walk into a bar, who whose granny would be first on a death panel?

Sorry. I have absolutely no idea what you mean by this or what you are getting at.

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Originally posted by FMF
For someone who throws out accusations of anti-semitism so easily, you seem to have an impaired understanding of what anti-semitism is.

[b]Oh yea, I almost forgot FMF. Hey FMF, would Hitler do such a thing. Now if Hitler, Ghandi, Obama, and Christ all walk into a bar, who whose granny would be first on a death panel?


Sorry. I have absolutely no idea what you mean by this or what you are getting at.[/b]
Indeed. But remember that alongside his basic literacy problems (reading and, it now seems, writing) whodey also has a dim grasp of the difference between the world in his head and the world at large.

Still, I'm sure we'll both be shown as fools, um, sometime soon when the deluge of anti-Semitic posts arrives as per his prediction. Yeah, any moment now...

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Tell me sh76, what do Palestinians have to do with jews being persecuted in Yemen and other countries?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Tell me sh76, what do Palestinians have to do with jews being persecuted in Yemen and other countries?
The Palastinians are the front men for the Islamic war against the zionists. Is this not clear to you with Iran funding the groups fighting them and then threatening them? In fact, when the US went into Iraq, they found a human bomb factory that are used by the Palastinians. What can I say, it is a group effort.

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Originally posted by whodey
The Palastinians are the front men for the Islamic war against the zionists.
Does that turn Palestinian civilians into legitimate military targets for Israel?

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Originally posted by whodey
The Palastinians are the front men for the Islamic war against the zionists. Is this not clear to you with Iran funding the groups fighting them and then threatening them? In fact, when the US went into Iraq, they found a human bomb factory that are used by the Palastinians. What can I say, it is a group effort.
So Palestinians are coordinating attacks on jews in Yemen?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Tell me sh76, what do Palestinians have to do with jews being persecuted in Yemen and other countries?
Nothing.

However, people who make a big stink about one and ignore the other are applying a double standard. That, of course, was my point.

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Originally posted by sh76
Nothing.

However, people who make a big stink about one and ignore the other are applying a double standard. That, of course, was my point.
Sort of, at best. Those who give money to a charity for homeless dogs are not applying a double standard with regards to their charity if they do not also give money to house homeless cats; if those people were to say that no charity should be extended to homeless cats, that would be a double standard. When the plight of the homeless cats is pointed out to them, they may agree that that is a bad thing, but if they do not then also give their charity to those cats surely doesn't mean they have a double standard?

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You'll note that, while I may have tortured that metaphor, I left it alive.

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Originally posted by DrKF
Sort of, at best. Those who give money to a charity for homeless dogs are not applying a double standard with regards to their charity if they do not also give money to house homeless cats; if those people were to say that no charity should be extended to homeless cats, that would be a double standard. When the plight of the homeless cats is pointed out to them ...[text shortened]... not then also give their charity to those cats surely doesn't mean they have a double standard?
I have no problem with people giving aid or charity to the Palestinians.

The people complaining about the plight of the Palestinian refugees and demanding that Israel be condemned and forced to do XYZ to remedy that and who ignore the plight of the Jews expelled from Arab lands are more analogous to the person who says that no charity should be extended to homeless cats while charity should be extended to homeless dogs than the guy who gives money to homeless dogs but doesn't give money to homeless cats.

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It's okay. We've been doing that here for almost 300 years. Whether it was Native American indians being slaughtered or forcing Natives off of the Bikini Atoll so we could test nukes back in the 40s-50s, its all about whose got more power in that area.