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  1. Behind the scenes
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    01 Jul '18 18:011 edit
    Special counsel Robert Mueller has been given a pretty broad directive regarding Donald Trump, and as Trump supporters whine and wail about the unfairness of this, I would suggest if our President is as innocent as he claims this should not be cause for concern. My Prediction: It will be Trump's financial dealings that will be the cause of his downfall. Proving collusion with Russia would be much more difficult than that of financial crimes.

    A review of the public record reveals a clear and disturbing pattern: Trump owes much of his business success, and by extension his presidency, to a flow of highly suspicious money from Russia. Over the past three decades, at least 13 people with known or alleged links to Russian mobsters or oligarchs have owned, lived in, and even run criminal activities out of Trump Tower and other Trump properties. Many used his apartments and casinos to launder untold millions in dirty money.

    Trump supporters: You can cry fake news all you want, but the money will bring him down.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/07/19/with-trump-and-russia-its-all-about-the-money/?utm_term=.6dedc8134bf4

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/nra-russia-and-trump-money-laundering-poisoning-us-democracy-commentary.html
  2. Subscribersonhouse
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    01 Jul '18 18:43
    Originally posted by @mchill
    Special counsel Robert Mueller has been given a pretty broad directive regarding Donald Trump, and as Trump supporters whine and wail about the unfairness of this, I would suggest if our President is as innocent as he claims this should not be cause for concern. My Prediction: It will be Trump's financial dealings that will be the cause of his downfall. Prov ...[text shortened]... cnbc.com/2018/02/15/nra-russia-and-trump-money-laundering-poisoning-us-democracy-commentary.html
    Anything to get rid of Trump but if he is impeached, we get Pence as POTUS. Is that actually better? I guess if it happens before 2020 Pence won't be able to do TOO much damage, pray away the gay, Dinosaurs walked with man, Earth is 6000 years old, PERIOD because the bible tells me so, even if it's not written.......
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    01 Jul '18 18:49
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    Anything to get rid of Trump but if he is impeached, we get Pence as POTUS. Is that actually better? I guess if it happens before 2020 Pence won't be able to do TOO much damage, pray away the gay, Dinosaurs walked with man, Earth is 6000 years old, PERIOD because the bible tells me so, even if it's not written.......
    Pence will get half a term.
    Most intelligent human beings tend to think in a forward manner.

    If some want to call this progressive, knock yourself out.
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    02 Jul '18 01:141 edit
    Trump will be the only US president to leave office (2024) with less money than when he came in...and the liberal fools support the crooks that get rich while in office.
  5. Standard membervivify
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    02 Jul '18 01:331 edit
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Trump will be the only US president to leave office (2024) with less money than when he came in...and the liberal fools support the crooks that get rich while in office.
    That's because Trump is losing business due to being a lowlife. He used to make money letting companies put his name on products; his name is now becoming business poison as more and more people around the world revile him.
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    02 Jul '18 01:40
    Originally posted by @vivify
    That's because Trump is losing business due to being a lowlife. He used to make money letting companies put his name on products; his name is now becoming business poison as more and more people around the world revile him.
    better check again...
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    02 Jul '18 13:52
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    Anything to get rid of Trump but if he is impeached, we get Pence as POTUS. Is that actually better? I guess if it happens before 2020 Pence won't be able to do TOO much damage, pray away the gay, Dinosaurs walked with man, Earth is 6000 years old, PERIOD because the bible tells me so, even if it's not written.......
    You will get Pence and half the country wanting to secede.

    The best of both worlds. 😵
  8. Subscribersonhouse
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    02 Jul '18 13:57
    Originally posted by @whodey
    You will get Pence and half the country wanting to secede.

    The best of both worlds. 😵
    You see pence as a viable alt right version of Trump? And you want another civil war. Nice. Maybe you recall over a million died in the last one?
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    02 Jul '18 17:01
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    You see pence as a viable alt right version of Trump? And you want another civil war. Nice. Maybe you recall over a million died in the last one?
    so now you are trying to blame conservatives for the left rioting and attacking people that don't agree with them?
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    02 Jul '18 17:311 edit
    Originally posted by @mchill
    Special counsel Robert Mueller has been given a pretty broad directive regarding Donald Trump, and as Trump supporters whine and wail about the unfairness of this, I would suggest if our President is as innocent as he claims this should not be cause for concern. My Prediction: It will be Trump's financial dealings that will be the cause of his downfall. Prov ...[text shortened]... cnbc.com/2018/02/15/nra-russia-and-trump-money-laundering-poisoning-us-democracy-commentary.html
    Another conspiracy theory. The problem isn't Russia in regards to money laundering, it is the USA. It is too easy to create shell companies here in the USA legally and some very powerful people do not want that to change.
    The only way to bring down Trump for money laundering is to bring down a lot of people more powerful than him at the same time. Ask Carl Levin about it.

    https://www.marketplace.org/2016/04/07/world/shell-comps

    Also, Trump isn't really that great of a business man. His net worth although disputed is not that impressive.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-09-03/should-donald-trump-have-indexed-
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    02 Jul '18 18:511 edit
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    so now you are trying to blame conservatives for the left rioting and attacking people that don't agree with them?
    No. We need only to look at the Trump rallies.

    "Beat the crap out of that guy"
    "I'll pay the legal costs"
    "I can shoot someone on 5th Ave and still keep my support"

    That's what you mean, right ?

    The highest office in the land and most powerful position in the world needs to carry with it an acceptable level of dignity and decorum.

    Now you can call that elitism if you like.
    But most of us know what that means.
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    02 Jul '18 19:221 edit
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Trump will be the only US president to leave office (2024) with less money than when he came in...and the liberal fools support the crooks that get rich while in office.
    His presidency will flush his brand down the toilet.

    His only hope is to try to enrich himself using the office of the president.
    He has already removed nepotism from his vocabulary.

    Maybe Putin can give him some tips at their upcoming Summit. 😛
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