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  1. Behind the scenes
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    13 Nov '16 16:30
    Donald Trump has taken different stances on different issues many times during his campaign, now he's walking back his promises about Obamacare, and his much ballyhooed wall with Mexico. It's difficult to see what a Trump administration plans do over the next 4 years. So, What will the next 4 years be like? Any Ideas?
  2. Standard membershavixmir
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    13 Nov '16 16:37
    Originally posted by mchill
    Donald Trump has taken different stances on different issues many times during his campaign, now he's walking back his promises about Obamacare, and his much ballyhooed wall with Mexico. It's difficult to see what a Trump administration plans do over the next 4 years. So, What will the next 4 years be like? Any Ideas?
    The point is that Trump can't be wrong. His world evolves around him being right.
    So, if he changes his opinion, you have to accept that. You're wrong and a threat to think otherwise.

    Yes. That's narcissism in a nutshell.
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    13 Nov '16 16:42
    Originally posted by mchill
    Donald Trump has taken different stances on different issues many times during his campaign, now he's walking back his promises about Obamacare, and his much ballyhooed wall with Mexico. It's difficult to see what a Trump administration plans do over the next 4 years. So, What will the next 4 years be like? Any Ideas?
    Realistically Trump can not imediately do a lot of things that need done. We have systems in place that started back during the Bush senior presidency and all through the Clinton and Obama presidencies. Impossible to tear it all down and still function. I think we will see Trump prioritize issues of what will be of best interest for the country that he can change quickly and at the same time develop the economy along the way. The things like the patriot act and Obama care can be started on immediately. Even Obama care will have to be dealt with carefully as the system is now set up for it. He will pick it apart little by little until the fascist system goes away. All those Acts that take liberty and freedoms away from citizens in the name of the war on terrorism can be done instantly. Trump will be tipping his hand if he doesn't stop the foreign entanglements we have gotten ourselves into the last few decades. If he ends up being a dissapointment then he can't be worse than Clinton.
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    13 Nov '16 16:52
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    Realistically Trump can not imediately do a lot of things that need done. We have systems in place that started back during the Bush senior presidency and all through the Clinton and Obama presidencies. Impossible to tear it all down and still function. I think we will see Trump prioritize issues of what will be of best interest for the country that he ca ...[text shortened]... the last few decades. If he ends up being a dissapointment then he can't be worse than Clinton.
    Surely if Obamacare is fascist, so are the police and the military...
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    13 Nov '16 16:57
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    Realistically Trump can not imediately do a lot of things that need done. We have systems in place that started back during the Bush senior presidency and all through the Clinton and Obama presidencies. Impossible to tear it all down and still function. I think we will see Trump prioritize issues of what will be of best interest for the country that he ca ...[text shortened]... the last few decades. If he ends up being a dissapointment then he can't be worse than Clinton.
    Hahaha. You think a Republican Congress will repeal the Patriot Act?! And why do you think Trump even wants to repeal it?
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    13 Nov '16 17:04
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Hahaha. You think a Republican Congress will repeal the Patriot Act?! And why do you think Trump even wants to repeal it?
    That is a hot issue with those that voted for Trump. There are a lot of worms in congress still on both sides but now they have to start thinking about what the people want as opposed to what the NWO wants. Oh thats right you deny the NWO even exists. That was laughable too by the way.
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    13 Nov '16 17:47
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Surely if Obamacare is fascist, so are the police and the military...
    What kind of a nation is more concerned with apeasing islamic terrorists than defending the constitutional rights of it citizens? At least the next 4 years will be Obama free and that is a big leap forward to a brighter future. Yes this country is on the road to becoming a police state. The feds have influenced state and local law enforcemet agencies and departments with funding and control. The feds have even gotten involved with school lunch programs. Way out of bounds for the Federal government. Texas has told Michael Obama to stick her lunches where the sun don't shine.
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    13 Nov '16 17:56
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    That is a hot issue with those that voted for Trump. There are a lot of worms in congress still on both sides but now they have to start thinking about what the people want as opposed to what the NWO wants. Oh thats right you deny the NWO even exists. That was laughable too by the way.
    I think the genius of the Trump campaign is that he convinced everyone (well, 26% of America, at least) that their issue is a hot issue for him. How did he do it? By taking all positions at once. It's so simple.

    Trump isn't going to repeal the Patriot Act. Tough luck.
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    13 Nov '16 23:46
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    I think the genius of the Trump campaign is that he convinced everyone (well, 26% of America, at least) that their issue is a hot issue for him. How did he do it? By taking all positions at once. It's so simple.

    Trump isn't going to repeal the Patriot Act. Tough luck.
    Don't forget the supreme court may change a bit too.
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    14 Nov '16 00:09
    Originally posted by mchill
    Donald Trump has taken different stances on different issues many times during his campaign, now he's walking back his promises about Obamacare, and his much ballyhooed wall with Mexico. It's difficult to see what a Trump administration plans do over the next 4 years. So, What will the next 4 years be like? Any Ideas?
    with trump you never know.
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    14 Nov '16 04:29
    Looks like TPP is dead and the global climate deal will be too.
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    14 Nov '16 07:30
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    Don't forget the supreme court may change a bit too.
    Yeah, in a way that's, for instance, going to block stricter gun laws and might challenge Roe v. Wade. Not in a way that will endanger the Patriot Act.
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    about 4 seats in the supreme court need filling in the next 4 years. though i suspect Ruth Bader-Ginsburg will decide to live forever just to spite him.
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    14 Nov '16 15:22
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Yeah, in a way that's, for instance, going to block stricter gun laws and might challenge Roe v. Wade. Not in a way that will endanger the Patriot Act.
    All they need is a case and if they choose to take it, it may be decided as unconstitutional.
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    14 Nov '16 15:26
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    All they need is a case and if they choose to take it, it may be decided as unconstitutional.
    The government will continue to take from society until we have nothing left, including our guns and Bibles.

    It's a beast that is unstoppable.
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