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The Origin of AIDS, Perhaps?

The Origin of AIDS, Perhaps?

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The origin of AIDS revealed? First person ever infected with HIV was a starving World War One soldier who caught the virus in Cameroon while hunting chimps, expert claims

In the acclaimed first edition of his book 'Origin of AIDS', published in 2011, Dr Pepin concluded HIV likely infected a hunter in Cameroon at the start of the 20th century, before spreading to Léopoldville, now known as Kinshasa in the Congo.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9202531/First-HIV-case-soldier-World-War-One-caught-virus-hunting-chimps.html
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Surely worth a quick read. Professor Jacques Pepin has some substantial evidences that point to Dutch soldiers, cut off from supply lines, going into neighboring Cameroon to hunt for monkeys.

Not proof, perhaps, but, the most plausible scenario I have seen.

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@earl-of-trumps said
The origin of AIDS revealed? First person ever infected with HIV was a starving World War One soldier who caught the virus in Cameroon while hunting chimps, expert claims

[i]In the acclaimed first edition of his book 'Origin of AIDS', published in 2011, Dr Pepin concluded HIV likely infected a hunter in Cameroon at the start of the 20th century, before spread ...[text shortened]... Cameroon to hunt for monkeys.

Not proof, perhaps, but, the most plausible scenario I have seen.
What were Dutch soldiers doing over there in WW1. And which supply lines?

Sounds mad to me.

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@shavixmir said
What were Dutch soldiers doing over there in WW1. And which supply lines?

Sounds mad to me.
Earl's synopsis is wrong; the soldiers weren't "Dutch" (the Netherlands was neutral in WWI) but supposedly part of a joint French, British and Belgian invasion force.

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@no1marauder said
Earl's synopsis is wrong; the soldiers weren't "Dutch" (the Netherlands was neutral in WWI) but supposedly part of a joint French, British and Belgian invasion force.
Earl was wrong???
Who’d a thunk it?

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@earl-of-trumps said
The origin of AIDS revealed? First person ever infected with HIV was a starving World War One soldier who caught the virus in Cameroon while hunting chimps, expert claims

[i]In the acclaimed first edition of his book 'Origin of AIDS', published in 2011, Dr Pepin concluded HIV likely infected a hunter in Cameroon at the start of the 20th century, before spread ...[text shortened]... Cameroon to hunt for monkeys.

Not proof, perhaps, but, the most plausible scenario I have seen.
I had a quick look but I couldn’t be bothered to read it, apologies therefore for commenting without even looking.

But can I ask you; is this all somehow about people having sex within monkeys, somewhere. Please tell me it’s not.

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@divegeester
One theory has it they did not have sex, just consumed the monkeys which had the Aids virus and that was passed from monkeys to humans.

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@shavixmir said
What were Dutch soldiers doing over there in WW1. And which supply lines?

Sounds mad to me.
Did you read it? It was WWI. Dutch went in to attack German strongholds in Africa.
Supply lines (shipping) were cut off.

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@sonhouse said
@divegeester
One theory has it they did not have sex, just consumed the monkeys which had the Aids virus and that was passed from monkeys to humans.
close.

the monkeys had SIV (simian), which mutated into HIV (human) upon human handling (consumption?)

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@no1marauder said
Earl's synopsis is wrong; the soldiers weren't "Dutch" (the Netherlands was neutral in WWI) but supposedly part of a joint French, British and Belgian invasion force.
my short-term memory sucks since getting COVID, and creeping old age does not help

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@earl-of-trumps said
close.

the monkeys had SIV (simian), which mutated into HIV (human) upon human handling (consumption?)
I read a similar article somewhere (can't remember now where, yup, old age), which proposed the same hypothesis, that the virus jumped species from monkeys to humans. I believe the virus is still widespread among the monkey population.

COVID from bats. Jakob-Kreuzfeld from cows. Just serves to remind us we're part of nature, not above it.

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@earl-of-trumps said
my short-term memory sucks since getting COVID, and creeping old age does not help
You got COVID?!

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@earl-of-trumps said
close.

the monkeys had SIV (simian), which mutated into HIV (human) upon human handling (consumption?)
The article claims it was caused by butchering the animal by a soldier with an open wound.

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@earl-of-trumps said
Did you read it? It was WWI. Dutch went in to attack German strongholds in Africa.
Supply lines (shipping) were cut off.
No they didn’t.

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