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The pure products of America go crazy

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Famous line by an American poet (http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88v/to-elsie.html). Think there's anything to it?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Famous line by an American poet. Think there's anything to it?
Does the USA have any pure products anymore? Or any purely American products?

Perhaps we had them in 1923 when WCW penned the lines. I doubt the lines are true today.

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Originally posted by Delmer
Does the USA have any pure products? Or any purely American products?
Mountain folk from Kentucky? Young slatterns?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Mountain folk from Kentucky? Young slatterns?
LOL! I know, but I don't think we have any "pure" young slatterns anymore. Or "pure" mountan folk from Kentucky either. "Pure young slatterns" makes one wonder what kind of company Williams Carlos Williams was keeping in those days. No doubt he chalked the slatterns up to poetic research.

One of my favorite poems though. Glad to see it mentioned in the forum.

Seriously though, I think the advent of radio, and later TV, probably was the demise of pure mountain folk. I understand that isn't exactly Williams' point, but I think the intense isolation no longer exists that existed yet in some places before WWII.

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Originally posted by Delmer
Does the USA have any pure products anymore? Or any purely American products?

Perhaps we had them in 1923 when WCW penned the lines. I doubt the lines are true today.
Maize grown in the US by Americans (or Amerinds if you want to be anal) and then sold by the same is a purely American product.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Think there's anything to it?
I think the poet is on to something here:



"as if the earth under our feet
were
an excrement of some sky"

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Originally posted by Delmer
LOL! I know, but I don't think we have any "pure" young slatterns anymore. Or "pure" mountan folk from Kentucky either.
I wonder exactly what he meant by "pure". Certainly not ethnically homogenous--WCW was a doctor who had extensive contact with immigrants (a special soft spot for Polish mothers).

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Famous line by an American poet (http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88v/to-elsie.html). Think there's anything to it?
John Holmes was "purely" American....

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
John Holmes was "purely" American....
You often claim to be 100% American. What does that mean to you?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
I wonder exactly what he meant by "pure". Certainly not ethnically homogenous--WCW was a doctor who had extensive contact with immigrants (a special soft spot for Polish mothers).
http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/s_z/williams/elsie.htm

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
John Holmes was "purely" American....
Could have picked someone better than that pencil dicked drug head.