From Sonhouse..
You keep ignoring the fact we have not reached anywhere near the peak of the current curve, going down in the tri state area but rising like a bitch in the rest of the country.
OK let's look at the rest of the country
Texas, California, Georgia and Utah
Deaths yesterday...
Texas..9
Cali...32
Georgia..40
Utah...0
Wow, the rest of the country certainly looks like it is in deep doo doo. Of course that was sarcasm aimed at an ignorant fool I quoted earlier.
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@eladar saideledar - Pardon me for crashing your little party skippy, but you're forgetting something:
From Sonhouse..
You keep ignoring the fact we have not reached anywhere near the peak of the current curve, going down in the tri state area but rising like a bitch in the rest of the country.
OK let's look at the rest of the country
Texas, California, Georgia and Utah
Deaths yesterday...
Texas..9
Cali...32
Georgia..40
Utah...0
Wow, the rest of the ...[text shortened]... s like it is in deep doo doo. Of course that was sarcasm aimed at an ignorant fool I quoted earlier.
These reported deaths are just that; "reported" We've tested only a tiny percentage of the population for COVID 19, so these reported deaths are the only one's we know of. There are many more people dead of this virus than is being reported, so don't lean too hard on these numbers of yours. You don't know what you're talking about. 🙄
@mchill saidSo you are saying that we do not really know how many deaths there are, so you assume many more.
eledar - Pardon me for crashing your little party skippy, but you're forgetting something:
These reported deaths are just that; "reported" We've tested only a tiny percentage of the population for COVID 19, so these reported deaths are the only one's we know of. There are many more people dead of this virus than is being reported, so don't lean too hard on these numbers of yours. You don't know what you're talking about. 🙄
New York must have really huge numbers if you are correct.
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@mchill saidWhile it's true that we've "tested only a tiny percentage of the population for COVID 19," your inference is fallacious.
eledar - Pardon me for crashing your little party skippy, but you're forgetting something:
These reported deaths are just that; "reported" We've tested only a tiny percentage of the population for COVID 19, so these reported deaths are the only one's we know of. There are many more people dead of this virus than is being reported, so don't lean too hard on these numbers of yours. You don't know what you're talking about. 🙄
First, those who die are very likely to have been tested. The people missed are generally the people who are asymptomatic or people who have such light symptoms that they don't bother testing. People who enter hospitals with COVID systems are routinely tested, of course.
The US has gone from testing shortages in March to more testing supply and demand. Cuomo said yesterday that in NY, we have the capacity to test 15,000 people/day but only 5,000/day show up to be tested. He even got tested during his press conference to show how easy it is to encourage people to come.
Second, while it's true that many COVID deaths were likely missed (especially in February and March), it's also true that many "COVID" deaths are deaths "with" COVID, not deaths "from" COVID. About half of US COVID deaths are in nursing homes, where life expectancy is generally something like 5 months with or without COVID. Just yesterday, Colorado started bifurcating deaths from COVID and deaths with COVID. But most other states and the CDC continue to count all deaths with COVID as COVID deaths and count "probables" as well.
Most experts that I've seen agree that the undercount is likely more substantial than the overcount, but not by much. Maybe the net undercount is 10 or 20% - nothing to counter El's point.
@mchill saidSo you think a State like....I don't know...say North Dakota is underreporting? Perhaps they are undertesting the population...is that what you are trying to argue?
eledar - Pardon me for crashing your little party skippy, but you're forgetting something:
These reported deaths are just that; "reported" We've tested only a tiny percentage of the population for COVID 19, so these reported deaths are the only one's we know of. There are many more people dead of this virus than is being reported, so don't lean too hard on these numbers of yours. You don't know what you're talking about. 🙄
@joe-shmo saidYou folks.....a state that tests a lot of people are going to have more results, so the ones having MORE tests will show more results. If they dont test 500 people in Jones county, they will not find any positive Corona in Jones county.
So you think a State like....I don't know...say North Dakota is underreporting? Perhaps they are undertesting the population...is that what you are trying to argue?
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@averagejoe1 saidI'm not sure if I'm following Joe but, North Dakota has tested the same percentage of its overall population as New York. 7.4% as of yesterday. The funny thing is in North Dakota the Cases per Test is 3.4%, in New York the Case per Test is 25.0%. Yet somehow I'm supposed to believe that in places like North Dakota, and predominantly in the remainder of the US ( States other than New York, New Jersey ) that people are dropping like flies from COVID without being counted... People are gladly forgetting population density will play a massive role in the proportion of missed deaths. The COVID Death machine that is the Northeast Megalopolis is very different from the rest of the US in this regard. It has an estimated population density of 1000 people per sq mile. The Average of the US excluding it is about 75 people per sq mile. Apples and Oranges? Pffffffff Try Grapes and Watermelons.
You folks.....a state that tests a lot of people are going to have more results, so the ones having MORE tests will show more results. If they dont test 500 people in Jones county, they will not find any positive Corona in Jones county.