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  1. 22 Feb '16 11:19 / 2 edits
    http://dailysignal.com/2016/02/18/the-rise-of-intolerant-liberals/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thffacebook



    Why have liberals become so intolerant? They think nothing of denying someone as prominent as former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice from speaking on a college campus. They embrace activists who shut down speakers. They publicly shame people for the slightest deviation from liberal orthodoxy.


    Their mindset is the very definition of closed-mindedness.

    For them everything from science to the law is “settled” once they get into power. Progress is a one-way street. Their mindset is the very definition of closed-mindedness.

    The easy answer would be “they are all bad people.” But frankly that’s a cop-out. Not all liberals are bad people, any more than all conservatives are angels. No doubt among the fevered minions of liberal activists there are people with, shall we say, psychological issues, but that doesn’t explain why so many otherwise reasonable people are so beholden to liberalism as an ideology.


    The short answer is that it pays. A lot of people in and out of government benefit. Liberalism also makes people feel good. Whether you are politician dispensing government benefits or the citizen receiving them, liberalism hides the self-interest and sometimes even greed that motivate people.

    But the devolution of liberalism into something now openly illiberal has causes far more complex than these familiar explanations provide.

    For one thing, liberalism is no longer mainly about ideas. It is about power—as in who has it and who doesn’t. Believing they already know the answers to all questions, liberals view politics and governing as mopping up operations.


    Academic research is about proving a point rather than discovering the truth. Science is treated as the private preserve of a certain ideology, not to mention a political weapon to justify preferred policy outcomes. Mistaking as they do their ideology for morality, they see no reason to shun the most cynical of political tactics to get their way. For them, the end justifies the means.

    Second, liberalism today is not the liberalism of yesteryear. It’s not Franklin Roosevelt’s or John Kennedy’s liberalism. It’s not even the liberalism of Bill Clinton. It has become something much more radical. Bill Clinton talked about the “era of big government” being over.


    It’s not Franklin Roosevelt’s or John Kennedy’s liberalism.

    Today, there is virtually no government program that liberals won’t embrace. Clinton had his Sister Souljah moment when he repudiated extremism in his party. Today liberals can’t get close enough to the “black lives matter” movement.

    Third, liberals have surrendered to (some would say created) the nasty culture of intolerance that infuses our popular culture. To this extent, they are not at all different from some self-proclaimed right-wing people who do the same. But the difference is—or at least is supposed to be—that liberals profess to be the party of the open mind. They have become anything but.

    Now that they control so many of our institutions—our universities, high-tech corporate board rooms, the entertainment industry, and increasingly even mainstream churches—they are closing the door behind them, making sure that no one, especially conservatives, will sneak in the back door.

    Finally, liberalism has become hostile to open inquiry. Liberal intellectuals used to love open-ended debates because they thought they could win people over with their intelligence and wit. No more. Today’s liberal intellectuals are much more interested in stifling debates than having them. After all, who needs debates when all the big questions have been answered by their ideology? Liberals are no longer the scruffy radicals of Washington Square, but a tenured Mandarin class hotly competing for government research grants.

    As I argue in my forthcoming book, “The Closing of the Liberal Mind,” to this Mandarin class:


    Knowledge, like human progress, must be created and managed by state policy, bureaucratized and forced on all people equally despite the infinite differences that exist between individual human beings. It is a sad state of affairs, especially for intellectuals who are expected to know better.

    There’s an old saying, he who controls knowledge controls power. Liberals get this adage instinctively. They treat truth not as wisdom—as something to be discovered—but as a will to power to be imposed by law and governmental fiat.

    In this quest for power, they have become masters at controlling not only knowledge, but popular culture. For example, when Americans watch entertainers like Jon Stewart, they don’t see an ideologue channeling liberal clichés. They see just a really funny guy. The ideology is completely buried. Young people respond in lockstep not because they were indoctrinated by some boring Maoist, but because they think the whole thing is great fun.

    What we have here is nothing less than a new and highly attractive form of illiberalism—an illiberal liberalism, if you will. Intolerance is championed in the name of tolerance, closed-mindedness in the name of open-mindedness, and hatred in the name of compassion. It’s classic double-think, and the deception is precisely the danger. Americans don’t expect liberals to be authoritarian wolves in sheep’s clothing. They are not prepared to be on guard all the time because liberals are supposed to be the good guys—the guardians of freedom of speech and the like.

    Alas, they are not. Just ask Condi Rice or anyone else who has been denied the opportunity to speak on an American campus.







  2. 22 Feb '16 11:26
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://dailysignal.com/2016/02/18/the-rise-of-intolerant-liberals/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thffacebook



    Why have liberals become so intolerant? They think nothing of denying someone as prominent as former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice from speaking on a college campus. They embrace activists who shut down speakers. They ...[text shortened]... een denied the opportunity to speak on an American campus.







    so you are complaining that liberals are starting to do the same crap conservatives have been doing for ages?


    it's not so fun when crap happens to you, is it ?
  3. 22 Feb '16 11:41 / 1 edit
    Liberals love to accuse conservatives of being what they themselves are, narrow minded and intolerant.
  4. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    22 Feb '16 13:00
    Originally posted by FishHead111
    Liberals love to accuse conservatives of being what they themselves are, narrow minded and intolerant.
    Yes, gotta love those conservatives, who want smaller government so they don't have to deal with such issues as no jobs, disabilities, education, all that stuff is just beyond our ken in our new tiny government, the one called abrogation of responsibility.
  5. 22 Feb '16 14:40
    It is odd how college liberalism has come full swing , used to be they welcomed contrary ideas and debate. Here's Commander George Lincoln Rockwell , invited to speak at UCLA 60 years ago. Couldn't imaging that happening today, kids would cry and run to their safe rooms.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGsFMmcIfOw
  6. 22 Feb '16 14:43 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    so you are complaining that liberals are starting to do the same crap conservatives have been doing for ages?


    it's not so fun when crap happens to you, is it ?
    Whoever gets all of that centralized power becomes the abuser.

    Better hope you elect angels from here on out.
  7. 22 Feb '16 15:50
    How does one quantify the tolerance of "liberals" and measure the trend therein?
  8. Standard member DeepThought
    Losing the Thread
    22 Feb '16 15:57
    Originally posted by FishHead111
    Liberals love to accuse conservatives of being what they themselves are, narrow minded and intolerant.
    Conservatives love to accuse liberals of loving to accuse conservatives of being...
  9. 22 Feb '16 15:59 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    Conservatives love to accuse liberals of loving to accuse conservatives of being...
    Liberals get votes and win all arguments by calling conservatives racist. They don't debate issues , they sling mud.
  10. 22 Feb '16 16:50
    Originally posted by FishHead111
    Liberals get votes and win all arguments by calling conservatives racist. They don't debate issues , they sling mud.
    Q.E.D.
  11. 22 Feb '16 18:39
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Yes, gotta love those conservatives, who want smaller government so they don't have to deal with such issues as no jobs, disabilities, education, all that stuff is just beyond our ken in our new tiny government, the one called abrogation of responsibility.
    Liberals would have us believe that the solution to all life's problems such as, "no jobs, disabilities, education," and the list could go on, lies in adopting their policies. Of course they tend to ignore the fact that where they have had political power for the longest, those problems have grown worse, and show no sign of reversing.

    There isn't a large city in the US that is not run by liberal Democrats, but those centers of liberal power, are the absolute worst or the worst, when it comes to the problems they say they can solve. Don't believe me? Come for a tour of Detroit.
  12. 22 Feb '16 21:51
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Liberals would have us believe that the solution to all life's problems such as, "no jobs, disabilities, education," and the list could go on, lies in adopting their policies. Of course they tend to ignore the fact that where they have had political power for the longest, those problems have grown worse, and show no sign of reversing.

    There isn't a ...[text shortened]... t comes to the problems they say they can solve. Don't believe me? Come for a tour of Detroit.
    Liberals want everyone to be like Outer Party members in 1984.
  13. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    23 Feb '16 18:55
    Originally posted by FishHead111
    Liberals want everyone to be like Outer Party members in 1984.
    Conservatives want everyone to be like the protagonists in Upton Sinclair's The Jungle.
  14. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    23 Feb '16 19:11
    My brush is broader than your brush, so nyah.
  15. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    23 Feb '16 21:05
    Liberals seem to attack or criticise what conservatives do.

    Conservatives seem to attack or criticise what they (conservatives) think liberals think.