The Ship is Sinking

Get your life preserver while you still can.

Originally posted by josephw
Get your life preserver while you still can.

I am in Indonesia. Is the ship sinking here, do you think?

Originally posted by FMF
I am in Indonesia. Is the ship sinking here, do you think?

That depends on how one defines 'ship'.

Originally posted by josephw
That depends on how one defines 'ship'.

Well it's your thread and your topic wording so it's up to you. If you're a whinging pessimist or dreary self-regarding misanthrope, perhaps Indonesia is not the place for you, regardless of your definition of "ship".

Originally posted by FMF
Well it's your thread and your topic wording so it's up to you. If you're a whinging pessimist or dreary self-regarding misanthrope, perhaps Indonesia is not the place for you, regardless of your definition of "ship".

Are you an immigration official?

Originally posted by josephw
Are you an immigration official?

No. But I don't think much of the fatalistic mewling of cynics and I don't think you and your negativity have much to offer to countries or cultures in the process of change and development, including - maybe - your own, never mind one like where I live - with all its profound problems and exciting possibilities and all. But perhaps I have got you wrong. I am in Indonesia. Is the ship sinking here, do you think?

Originally posted by FMF
No. But I don't think much of the fatalistic mewling of cynics and don't think you and your negativity have much to offer to countries or cultures in the process change and development, including - maybe - your own, never mind one like where I live - with all its profound problems and exciting possibilities and all. But perhaps I have got you wrong. I am in Indonesia. Is the ship sinking here, do you think?

Again, it depends on how one defines 'ship'. If Indonesia is on the ship, then it must be sinking too.

"But I don't think much of the fatalistic mewling of cynics and don't think you and your negativity have much to offer..."

It's been said that we are what we think. Maybe we are what we feel as well.

Originally posted by josephw
Again, it depends on how one defines 'ship'. If Indonesia is on the ship, then it must be sinking too.

[b]"But I don't think much of the fatalistic mewling of cynics and don't think you and your negativity have much to offer..."

It's been said that we are what we think. Maybe we are what we feel as well.[/b]

If I might speak on FMF's behalf, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask you: what do you mean by "ship" and by "sinking"?

Originally posted by josephw
Again, it depends on how one defines 'ship'. If Indonesia is on the ship, then it must be sinking too.

Well it's your thread and your choice of the word 'ship', so it's up to you. Declining to explain what you mean by it doesn't make for a very interesting discussion. Just saying.

Indonesia isn't buoyant. Even if water levels are rising, it's not sinking.
Maybe we should send this thread to science or spirituality, given there's no debate here.

Haruki Murakami novels are like this thread.

Originally posted by badmoon
Haruki Murakami novels are like this thread.

Haruki Murakami is sinking.....

Originally posted by josephw
Get your life preserver while you still can.

I think you will find most think they can cope just fine on their own. In fact, they probably champion the forces that are causing the sinking.

Didn't it sink in January already?

Originally posted by Kewpie
Didn't it sink in January already?

Gurgle, gurgle, gurgle.......