I am writing this speach for Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar. It is the one he should deliver today to all of Spain. He needs to do it today.
My fellow citizens. I am saddened to come before you today to tell you that we are now quite certain that the cowardly attack on our fellow citizens is almost certainly the work of terrorists associated with the Islamic Brotherhood. We can no longer deny the fact that we seem to have been targeted because of our support for the United States in it's war against these cowards.
I am responsible for aligning our nation with the United States in this war against the cowards who bombed and killed so many of us. I am the one who saw that these ruthless killers will not be satisfied until we are all dead or are willing to abandon civilization entirely. I was the one who recognized early on that they want nothing less than the desruction of modern civilization, and a return to the cruel patriarchy of the Caliphate. I am also the one who must now stand in judgement for standing against these cowards.
That my actions has brought about the deaths of so many... makes me sick with grief. But I now understand George Bush much better. I, like him have stood at the carnage and seen the results of the evil. I now understand that there can be no surrender to these cowards who fight for Islam. They must be stopped. No matter the cost. Because to not stop them is to devolve into a planet that will know nothing but war for a thousand years.
So, my fellow citizens. The choice is yours. If you think that my standing our nation with the US against these cowards was wrong, then vote in the Socialists. They will find no problem in forming agreements and treaties with these killer cowards. At least until such time as the cowards feel a need to kill again. The entire question thus becomes... do you trust these cowards? If so, then entreat with them. If not... join me in killing them.
My fate is in your hands. Your fate is in your hands. Think what a marvelous thing that is... and what a terrible loss it will be if the cowards prevail. I ask you not to think of you and me. Think of your children. Do you want them to have to deal with these murdering cowards in fifty years, when they will inevitably have nuclear and biological weapons? Do you think that the world will be better to have the United States brought down to nothing? That is what will happen if we abandon her. She has not the strength to fight this without our souls and our spirit.
The vote is simple. I will redouble... and redouble again my efforts to defeat these cowards. I will search them out forever! I will hunt them like the mad dogs that they are. And when I find them I wll kill them.
Decide. It is up to you. You know what the socialists will do, and I have left no doubt as to my intentions.
Thank You. May Spain have the strength for this long war, no matter the outcome tomorrow.
Jose Maria Aznar <actually SVW for him. I have made every attempt at getting this to him. We'll see.>
Originally posted by marinakatombCorrect! congratulations. "Saddam, the Terrorist"... that is the one. Check out his first meeting of the full Bathe party. He had eighty or so people murdered. As each name was read, the sheep were lead away. The next morning at 8 AM they were all shot. By firing squads made up of the surviving members present at that same meeting. Terror? Kind of. Or "extremely effective politics". Depends on your personal moral gauge I think.
The war in Iraq wasn't to stop terrorism, it was to remove saddam.
Originally posted by marinakatombAs a further thought... He was a "Known Terrorist" who happened to have the resources of a nation to play with. If you are in a fight with all terrorists, you would be rather stupid to overlook a "known Terrorist" who could, and would share the resources of an entire nation with his fellow terrorists, wouldn't you? I think so. So did Bush. Saddams hatred of the US matched that of Bin Laden, I think. It was right up there with the hatred seventy percent of the people on RHP have for the US.😀
The war in Iraq wasn't to stop terrorism, it was to remove saddam.
Originally posted by chancremechanicThanks, CM. I'm not getting a whole lot of support on this. I appreciate your courage.
Well put StarValley...that is what civilization must do: Meet the enemy(militant Islam) and slay him(Osama bin $hithead) with the mighty sword(America and her allies) of justice...
Mike
Originally posted by StarValleyWyI don't disagree with u in principle. The world is not such a bad place without him. The only thing is that Saddam is not a religious fanatic. Saddam was a dictator, an evil one who needed to be dealt with, but not a terrorist, and not an Islamic fundamentalist.
As a further thought... He was a "Known Terrorist" who happened to have the resources of a nation to play with. If you are in a fight with all terrorists, you would be rather stupid to overlook a "known Terrorist" who could, and would share the resources of an entire nation with his fellow terrorists, wouldn't you? I think so. So did Bush. Saddams ...[text shortened]... k. It was right up there with the hatred seventy percent of the people on RHP have for the US.😀
Originally posted by marinakatombTerror is terror. Are you telling me that the thousands dragged out in the middle of the night, beheaded by Saddam's secret police and kids ... their corpses dumped in their yards for all to witness... were not the victims of terror?
I don't disagree with u in principle. The world is not such a bad place without him. The only thing is that Saddam is not a religious fanatic. Saddam was a dictator, an evil one who needed to be dealt with, but not a terrorist, and not an Islamic fundamentalist.
Religion has nothing to do with terror. The Brotherhood of Islam is a political organization. They use religion, but they are not religious. They are no different from Saddam.
Are you telling me that the thousands of Kuwaiti's who were castrated and drug to death behind tanks were not the victims of terror? Or that the fifteen thousand known rape victims were not victims of terror?
I read the part about not disagreeing in principle several times. I guess then I just have to question your perception of the world, as compared to mine. You have an entirely different set of "principles" than I do, or you wouldn't defend terrorists. Or did I miss something?
Originally posted by StarValleyWyU have my support. I don't think there was a legal reason to invade Iraq, but that doesn't mean i don't lend my support to the plight of my brothers in the US of A.
Thanks, CM. I'm not getting a whole lot of support on this. I appreciate your courage.
Mike
On the contrary, i realize the menace posssed by these religious nutters. We have no evidence that Saddam ever did fund or support terrorist organisations though (the recent brand of terrorists at least).
If u are going to say u removed Saddam because he was possing a threat to the civilized world, i have to ask what that threat is. Any statement like that needs to be backed up in fact. There is NO evidence. I was happy for the people of Iraq when he was removed, not the people of America. This isn't cos i dislike the US, as i have already stated, it's cos the people of Iraq were the only people who were under threat by him.
Originally posted by marinakatomb<edit> As to your remarks about Bin Laden...
U have my support. I don't think there was a legal reason to invade Iraq, but that doesn't mean i don't lend my support to the plight of my brothers in the US of A.
On the contrary, i realize the menace posssed by these religiou ...[text shortened]... people of Iraq were the only people who were under threat by him.
Did you not watch the video of him gloating over the attacks in New York and Washington? It was on tv everywhere. Where were you? He actually was bragging and pointing out what was to happen next. Or his follow-up tape to al jezzera in December of 2001? Bragging about it? You have to really be against us to not have noticed.
Not that it will do any good. Look to what he DID for crying out loud. Not what you think, or I think. Is he a terrorist? As a result of the Iran War... The Kuwait war... the Kurdish genecide... Yes or No? It's not that tough of a question. If you don't see it, then you are from a different universe than I.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyPlease outline the part were i defended terrorists.
I read the part about not disagreeing in principle several times. I guess then I just have to question your perception of the world, as compared to mine. You have an entirely different set of "principles" than I do, or you wouldn't defend terrorists. Or did I miss something?
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Just because i am not sturred by bold statements about "Terror" and "Freedom" and "Liberty", doesn't make me sympathetic to terrorists.
When my country takes military action, where thousands and thousands of people will be killed by a rain of Bombs from the sky, i have to believe there is Justification.
In Iraq there existed a justification for war! However this justification has nothing to do with the US's war on Terror, it has everything to do with Saddams war on Iraq!
Originally posted by StarValleyWySaddam smiled, along with the rest of the Arab world. Are you going to kill them all?? Or are you going to win back thier respect somehow??
<edit> As to your remarks about Bin Laden...
Did you not watch the video of him gloating over the attacks in New York and Washington? It was on tv everywhere. Where were you? He actually was bragging and pointing out what was to happen next. Or his follow-up tape to al jezzera in December of 2001? Bragging about it? You have to really be against us t ...[text shortened]... t that tough of a question. If you don't see it, then you are from a different universe than I.
Perhaps you don't notice this cos u live in America, but i have seen many pictures of Americans gloating of the death of their enemies as well. What the hell do u think he was going to do, send a letter of support?? America had already bombed his ass once before so there is not exactly any love lost is there, is there!!
Originally posted by marinakatombIf i could I would kill every coward who kills innocent's. Yes. Bin Laden is counting on folks like you.
Saddam smiled, along with the rest of the Arab world. Are you going to kill them all?? Or are you going to win back thier respect somehow??
Perhaps you don't notice this cos u live in America, but i have seen many pictures of Americans gloating of the death of their enemies as well. What the hell do u think he was going to do, send a letter of suppo ...[text shortened]... ad already bombed his ass once before so there is not exactly any love lost is there, is there!!
Tell me what you would do to gain their respect? How would you open a dialogue and what would you say to get the conversation going? I am mighty interested in hearing it.
Again you wranckle about us already having "bombed his ass once". Did Kuwait have anything to do with that? Did we not have international law on our side, just as we did in removing him? Why do you want him back? I really am curious about that. Why in the world are you supporting him so ... vehemently?