03 Nov 13
Given the way mediais controlled these days, and given the recent comments made about Sandy Hook and now the LAX gunman, are we ever likely to have trust in what the media reports, and is it likely that we have past the tipping point where the simple truth of an incident will ever be known or believed?
03 Nov 13
Originally posted by kmax87That is a good question. In the 70's people believed we had a free press and for the most part believed what was said. Not so today. It is like relationship. If a spouse constantly lies will a person ever get back the trust? Probably not.
Given the way mediais controlled these days, and given the recent comments made about Sandy Hook and now the LAX gunman, are we ever likely to have trust in what the media reports, and is it likely that we have past the tipping point where the simple truth of an incident will ever be known or believed?
03 Nov 13
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Originally posted by joe beyserIt comes down more to what we want to hear. If, for example, you are a liberal you only want to hear news sources that do not offend you in any way. Conservatives are no different. And so we have news sources that pander to both.
That is a good question. In the 70's people believed we had a free press and for the most part believed what was said. Not so today. It is like relationship. If a spouse constantly lies will a person ever get back the trust? Probably not.
My favorite bit was done by Jon Stewart back when Ron Paul was running. He showed how both liberal and conservative news outlets either ignored Ron Paul or simply dismissed him in arrogant fashion for all to see. My favorite line was, "When did Ron Pual become the 13th floor in a hotel?"
LOL
I was amazed that this sort of thing is ever exposed, but it represents why I hate the media. They all have common goals they share and the truth is not one of those goals.
Here it is.
03 Nov 13
Originally posted by kmax87There is no truth.
Given the way mediais controlled these days, and given the recent comments made about Sandy Hook and now the LAX gunman, are we ever likely to have trust in what the media reports, and is it likely that we have past the tipping point where the simple truth of an incident will ever be known or believed?
03 Nov 13
Originally posted by joe beyserYet the press hasn't really changed that much. What has changed is peoples access to conspiracy theories.
That is a good question. In the 70's people believed we had a free press and for the most part believed what was said. Not so today. It is like relationship. If a spouse constantly lies will a person ever get back the trust? Probably not.
03 Nov 13
Originally posted by kmax87I think everyone should try watching Chinese news for a month. It really gives one an understanding of just how much our views are shaped by the way news is reported and what is reported regardless of how true or false the contents are.
Given the way mediais controlled these days, and given the recent comments made about Sandy Hook and now the LAX gunman, are we ever likely to have trust in what the media reports, and is it likely that we have past the tipping point where the simple truth of an incident will ever be known or believed?
It is amazing how most people come to believe that the frequency of a class of events in the news represents accurate statistics of what is going on in the country. So for example, if there are three rape cases reported in a row, everyone starts to think that rape is increasing. They don't realise there are many times that number of rape cases that do not make the news. For example Wikipedia says there are an estimated 500,000 rape cases per year in South Africa. Thats more than a thousand cases per day. I don't know how accurate it is, but it is far more accurate than a survey of new stories would give you.
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03 Nov 13
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Originally posted by joe beyserFunny you should mention the 70's.
That is a good question. In the 70's people believed we had a free press and for the most part believed what was said. Not so today. It is like relationship. If a spouse constantly lies will a person ever get back the trust? Probably not.
""Vietnam: The Real War" also reminds us viscerally of the most important lesson the American military took from its defeat in Southeast Asia: to make the management of image flow to the American citizenry a priority in all wars from then on. "
http://www.sfgate.com/books/article/Vietnam-The-Real-War-A-Photographic-History-4948088.php
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Originally posted by kmax87There has always been bias, to what extent and why is the important thing, but yes, I suspect that truth in the media is hard to come by these days.
Given the way mediais controlled these days, and given the recent comments made about Sandy Hook and now the LAX gunman, are we ever likely to have trust in what the media reports, and is it likely that we have past the tipping point where the simple truth of an incident will ever be known or believed?
I must admit that I find the American media a little more partisan than in Europe, but not by much, for while listening to news of the drone strike that killed Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud it was heralded as a great day? A great day for whom i wondered? Those who will be recipients of the Talibans reprisal attacks? Not only that, but those people on the ground, those that have to live with the issues know that this was an opportunity for peace talks now lost, so in what sense was it a great day?
Thus the media cannot be trusted to be impartial.
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09 Nov 13
Originally posted by kmax87I don't think the vast majority of the population is past the tipping point of belief that things are as they are generally represented to be. For one thing, most of our days are filled with decisions about whether we need to buy a new carton of milk, not whether Sandy Hook was a government job. The truth is not out there, it's in your refrigerator.
Given the way mediais controlled these days, and given the recent comments made about Sandy Hook and now the LAX gunman, are we ever likely to have trust in what the media reports, and is it likely that we have past the tipping point where the simple truth of an incident will ever be known or believed?
09 Nov 13
Originally posted by whodeyThe media was definitely playing a part in politics there. They definately did not want Ron Paul in as he voted consistently along the lines of constitutionality.
It comes down more to what we want to hear. If, for example, you are a liberal you only want to hear news sources that do not offend you in any way. Conservatives are no different. And so we have news sources that pander to both.
My favorite bit was done by Jon Stewart back when Ron Paul was running. He showed how both liberal and conservative news out ...[text shortened]... he truth is not one of those goals.
Here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSbkFpAA4CA
09 Nov 13
Originally posted by JS357The government will not allow footage of death or even caskets now. How is it the government gets to decide these things when we have a first amendment? If the government started controlling the coverage on war then why wouldn't they also use it to control the public opinion in politics and other issues deemed important to the NWO?
Funny you should mention the 70's.
""Vietnam: The Real War" also reminds us viscerally of the most important lesson the American military took from its defeat in Southeast Asia: to make the management of image flow to the American citizenry a priority in all wars from then on. "
http://www.sfgate.com/books/article/Vietnam-The-Real-War-A-Photographic-History-4948088.php