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People are impressed by the power of our example and not the example of our power.- Bill Clinton DNC 08

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some example. missiles to Sudan to distract from his impeachment woes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_dog

Wag the Dog is a 1997 film starring Robert De Niro, about a Washington spin doctor who distracts the electorate from a U.S. presidential sex scandal by hiring a Hollywood producer, played by Dustin Hoffman, to construct a fake war with Albania.

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Less than a month after the movie was released, President Bill Clinton was embroiled in the Lewinsky scandal. Over the course of 1998 and early 1999, as the scandal dominated American politics, the US engaged in three military operations:

* Operation Desert Fox, a three-day bombing campaign in Iraq that took place as the U.S. House of Representatives debated articles of impeachment against Clinton

* Operation Infinite Reach, a pair of missile strikes against suspected terrorist targets in Sudan and Afghanistan three days after Clinton admitted in a nationally televised address that he had an inappropriate relationship with Lewinsky

* Operation Allied Force, a 78-day-long NATO bombing campaign against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia that began weeks after Clinton was acquitted in his Senate impeachment trial.

In a further coincidence, the missile strikes against Sudan and Afghanistan were announced by the White House moments before the beginning of a press conference in which Lewinsky was to give details of her appearance before Congress.

Critics, including Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, charged that the former operation was an attempt to distract attention from the Lewinsky scandal, and Serb state television went so far as to broadcast Wag The Dog in the midst of NATO attacks on Serbia.

A photograph of the girl with whom the unnamed president was accused of taking liberties is shown by journalists in the film. The photograph is remarkably similar to the much-seen image of Lewinsky greeting President Clinton in a crowd event, including the wearing of berets by both the girl in the image in the film and Lewinski in the real photograph.

The video cassette version of the film contains an extended feature after the credits that has commentary about the movie in the context of the Lewinsky scandal by the producers of the movie and Tom Brokaw.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
some example. missiles to Sudan to distract from his impeachment woes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_dog

Wag the Dog is a 1997 film starring Robert De Niro, about a Washington spin doctor who distracts the electorate from a U.S. presidential sex scandal by hiring a Hollywood producer, played by Dustin Hoffman, to construct a fake war with ...[text shortened]... t the movie in the context of the Lewinsky scandal by the producers of the movie and Tom Brokaw.
It never ends with you idiots.

Which of the three military operations mentioned did you then or do you now think was a bad idea?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
some example. missiles to Sudan to distract from his impeachment woes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_dog

Wag the Dog is a 1997 film starring Robert De Niro, about a Washington spin doctor who distracts the electorate from a U.S. presidential sex scandal by hiring a Hollywood producer, played by Dustin Hoffman, to construct a fake war with ...[text shortened]... t the movie in the context of the Lewinsky scandal by the producers of the movie and Tom Brokaw.
Uhhhmmmm, Hollywood movie compared to real life with comments and everything telling us how they're the same, I'm sold.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
* Operation Desert Fox, a three-day bombing campaign in Iraq that took place as the U.S. House of Representatives debated articles of impeachment against Clinton
The problem with you wingers is that you don't read. You take for gospel what your Rethuglican cronies tell you. Because you don't READ (and I don't mean some article by some schmo online. I mean books), you don't learn the truth.

Here's the truth about Desert Fox.

"We contained Saddam. We watched his military shrink to less than half its size from the beginning of the Gulf Ware until the time I left command, not only shrinking in size, but dealing with obsolete equipment, ill-trained troops, dissatisfaction in the ranks, a lot of abenteeism. We didn't see the Iraqis as a formidable force. We saw them as a decaying force." -- General Zinni
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Yet the raids proved suprisingly effective. "Desert Fox actually exceeded expectations," wrote Kenneth Pollack ... "Saddam panicked during the strikes. Fearing that his control was threatened, he ordered large-scale arrests and executions, which backfired and destabilized his regime for months afterward."

Zinni was amazed when Western intelligence assets in Baghdad reported that Desert Fox nearly knocked off Saddam Hussein's regime. His conclusion: Containment is clearly working, and Saddam Hussein was on the ropes. ... "There were a lot of good reports coming out afterward ... Interceptions of communications among Iraqi generals indicated "palpable fear that he was going to lose control."

Arab allies of the United States were hearing the same reports, and that led them to go to Gen. Zinni with an urgent question: If you do indeed topple Saddam Hussein, what will come next?" This is what I heard from our Arab friends out there--you almost caused an implosion," Zinni recalled. "And that worried them. An implosion is going to caus chaos. You're going to have to go in after an implosion. The question was, do you guys have a plan?"
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[David] Kay added that he was taken aback to hear their accounts. "For me, it was a bit of an eye-opener, because I'd always denigrated Desert Fox. What I failed to understand was that it was cumulative, coming on top of eight years of sanctions."
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[Army Col. Alan King] ... The manufacturing capability .., was largely finished off by Desert Fox."
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Zinni's conclusion was that U.S. policy on Iraq succeeded in the late nineties. "Containment worked. Look at Saddam -- what did he have? He didn't threaten anyone in the region. He was contained. It was a pain in the ass, but he was contined. ... We contained, day-to-day, with fewer troops that go to work every day at the Pentagon. It was sometimes messy, and it could have been done better, especially if sanctions had been dropped. But it had worked."