03 Jul 08
Originally posted by Squelchbelchsicko, michael moore.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7485910.stm
Video footage has emerged of an American woman dying on the floor of a New York City hospital as workers failed to help for more than an hour.
of course bush supporters and the like will yell the bastard is an unpatriotic retard who distorts the truth to suit his goals.
however i would recommend watching the movie first. sure moore is taking things out of context, and manipulating the facts(massaging the truth). but i would like to see what is there more to the story of the canadian whoi bumped his head and after 2 weeks of hospital had to pay 600000$(those are american dollars not canadian and there are 5 zeros after the 6). i for one would have taken my brains "to go" and went back to romania.
03 Jul 08
Originally posted by techsouthFear monger some more why don't you.
Indeed. Expect more of the same once we socialize medicine.
Have you ever lived in a country that had socialized medicine as you put it???????????????
Your own system has holes, canada's system has differnet holes, Englands has different holes, France has different holes.
The question should be can you find a system that fits your needs and one that you can accept the trade-offs. Right now, Americans seem content to trade off 50 million people who can't afford healthcare.
03 Jul 08
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Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYou're more likely to die at a privately funded hospital that a publicly funded one:
This would never happen at a privately-funded hospital.
One recent study published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal compares mortality rates in private forprofit and nonprofit hospitals in the United States. Research on 38 million adult patients in 26,000 U.S. hospitals revealed that death rates in for-profit hospitals are significantly higher than in nonprofit hospitals: for-profit patients have a 2 percent higher chance of dying in the hospital or within 30 days of discharge. The increased death rates were clearly linked to "the corners that for-profit hospitals must cut in order to achieve a profit margin for investors, as well as to pay high salaries for administrators."5
“To ease cost pressures, administrators tend to hire less highly skilled personnel, including doctors, nurses, and pharmacists…,” wrote P. J. Devereaux, a cardiologist at McMaster University and the lead researcher. “The U.S. statistics clearly show that when the need for profits drives hospital decisionmaking, more patients die.”
http://www.yesmagazine.org/article.asp?ID=1503
03 Jul 08
Originally posted by ZahlanziI honestly don't see what Michael Moore has to do with this. Has he
sicko, michael moore.
of course bush supporters and the like will yell the bastard is an unpatriotic retard who distorts the truth to suit his goals.
however i would recommend watching the movie first. sure moore is taking things out of context, and manipulating the facts(massaging the truth). but i would like to see what is there more to the story of ...[text shortened]... e 5 zeros after the 6). i for one would have taken my brains "to go" and went back to romania.
commented on it, or?..
It is strange how the staff (like the security guard) can walk by and
not do anything. It's a common response for untrained people not to
do anything (it's group psychology - if nobody else does anything we
take that as confirmation that it's not what it looks like - most people
require some lead figure to step forward and when no one takes that
role this sort of thing can happen), but when the staff walks in, looks at
her and then walks out again? That's a most peculiar behaviour.
It's also interesting to note that when someone of authority (like the
security guard) walks in, looks at her and leaves, then that weighs even
heavier to the other observers than if a normal person would have done
the same. It's even more of a confirmation to the people sitting there
that it's not as bad as it looks.