Originally posted by NemesioGOD gave us the power to avoid, the evils of life. We choose to participate in the acts of the rebellion of satan. GOD created man without sin. From the very beginning HE gave man the choice, to do right or wrong. Man chose to do wrong.
Because God had (has) the power to make Man perfect, but He chose
not to do so. If God had made Man perfect, then Man would have never
fallen into sin but be sinless, like Jesus is said to have been.
God could have avoided all of this mess, had He ordained it to be so.
God could clear up all of this mess, if He ordained it to be so.
This is why the Man who believes that God actively controls all things
blames God.
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioBut satan does exsist, and he serves a purpose.We just have to find out and know what that purpose is.
Not necessarily, just untested. I mean, would you say
that I had a perfect record in Major League Baseball
because I've never lost a game (I suck at baseball, by
the way)?
Of course you wouldn't. Taking the Adam and Eve story
literally for a moment, if Satan never existed, then A&E
never would have been tested. That doesn't make them
perfect.
Nemesio
Originally posted by rwingettBut satan was defeated before the garden of eden. Satan was defeated before we were ever created.
Because if god is omnipotent then he has the power to defeat Satan. If he chooses not to defeat Satan, then he is not omnibenevolent. If he cannot defeat Satan then he is not omnipotent. If he lacks either omnibenevolence or omnipotence, then he is not worthy of worship. It's just another way of stating the problem of evil.
Originally posted by blindfaith101Obviously God didn't give us enough power. That alone proves
GOD gave us the power to avoid, the evils of life. We choose to participate in the acts of the rebellion of satan. GOD created man without sin. From the very beginning HE gave man the choice, to do right or wrong. Man chose to do wrong.
that we were made imperfect. If we were perfect, we would
have avoided sin.
Nemesio
Originally posted by Nemesiowe had all we needed to make the right decsion. That is what the choice was all about, GOD gave us a choice wheter we would follow is instructions or not.
Obviously God didn't give us enough power. That alone proves
that we were made imperfect. If we were perfect, we would
have avoided sin.
Nemesio
Originally posted by blindfaith101If we were perfect, we would have made the right decision.
we had all we needed to make the right decsion. That is what the choice was all about, GOD gave us a choice wheter we would follow is instructions or not.
We were not made perfect.
This is a simple concept: Perfect = no sin; Not perfect = will sin.
Nemesio
Originally posted by DarfiusYou continue to prefer the erroneous translation of
Lucifer was perfect, and he sinned.
Uh oh, more of Nemesio's faulty logic.
Lucifer (as if this character existed) instead of day-star
or morning-star.
I can't help if you want to live a lie, but I won't. I prefer
to seek the truth.
Nemesio