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moonbus
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you America. Prove you can still do this, cleanly, safely, fairly, peacefully, and accept the result.

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@moonbus said
you America. Prove you can still do this, cleanly, safely, fairly, peacefully, and accept the result.
Lol. . not likely. I saw BBC interviewed a bunch of random voters from both sides and its all about rioting, protests and other forms of troublemaking if the other side wins. The US degenerates into an unstable third world country during election time.

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@Rajk999 said
Lol. . not likely. I saw BBC interviewed a bunch of random voters from both sides and its all about rioting, protests and other forms of troublemaking if the other side wins. The US degenerates into an unstable third world country during election time.
Bush – Gore was a disputed result, and the country did not degenerate into violence.

January 6, 2021 was a watershed for America. America will be better prepared this time around than it was on January 6, 2021. For example, Congress has already passed legislation specifying that the VP, in this case Harris, has no power to de-certify an election result.

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@moonbus said
Bush – Gore was a disputed result, and the country did not degenerate into violence.

January 6, 2021 was a watershed for America. America will be better prepared this time around than it was on January 6, 2021. For example, Congress has already passed legislation specifying that the VP, in this case Harris, has no power to de-certify an election result.
Yes, those were the good ole days. The USA is a different place now. Woke BLM and other organisations changed people. Just look at the two candidates. Both are not president material.

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Businesses in some cities are boarding up their glass windows as if they are expecting a hurricane. That tells you something.

Sprogladog

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Neoliberalism or Neonazi....both depressing options.

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Moldova just elected a left-leaning female president and so did Mexico only a few weeks ago.

Let's keep this going.

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@Rajk999 said
Lol. . not likely. I saw BBC interviewed a bunch of random voters from both sides and its all about rioting, protests and other forms of troublemaking if the other side wins. The US degenerates into an unstable third world country during election time.
If the Dems lose they will instantly chimp-out all over the country and keep it up for four years.

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@Cliff-Mashburn said
If the Dems lose they will instantly chimp-out all over the country and keep it up for four years.
What is “chimp out”?

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@Sprogladog
It ain't NEO Nazi, Trump will make if full on Nazi. He uses almost the identical language of the US Nazi party of 1939.
And you think what you label neoliberals is WORSE? I guess you didn't notice the amount of actual policy bills already passed by the Biden administration like the infrastructure bill which should have been passed by Trump 8 years ago but he didn't even get THAT done. Or the chips bill pumping billions in to US made chip cleanrooms so we can get off the tit of Taiwan chips, which will save our ass when China pulls the trigger and attacks Taiwan.
Right now the US economy is literally the envy of the world, number one on the GNP list, when China was touted as taking over the #1 list but flagging behind, not even up to 20 Trillion a year while the US is pushing towards THIRTY Trillion.
And the 'neonazi' party owned by Trump keeps puking out how terrible the US is in economics, GARBAGE is the word he used and he KNOWS he lies but also knows his base doesn't care about truth, accepting every lie puked out of his mouth.

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@sonhouse
I don't doubt that Biden has done lots of wonderful things as did Obama... as did Blair and nodoubt Starmer, but they are all complicit as with the republican and Tory parties of the last 40 odd years of following a neoliberal agenda that has created extremely rich countries with mass poverty....which inturn leads to populism.

Who's worse Dr Frankenstien or his monster?

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@Sprogladog
Right, a foreigner telling us what president has done the most. BOTH Obama and Biden have done great things as POTUS, There can be no argument Biden passed the infrastructure bill, the chips bill, getting the price of insulin from the insane price of several hundred dollars a pop to 35 max. Trump TRIED to pass the infrastructure bill but failed but what did he do as X POTUS?

Kill the bipartisan border bill which would have put over a thousand new border agents on the ground and a lot of new judges to handle the incredible backlog of asylum cases before the courts.
He HATED the idea of Biden getting an OUNCE of credit for that bill and it also shows Trump could care less about the border but just weaponizes the issue for his own personal political gain. THAT IS A FACT.

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@sonhouse
I don't doubt any of that. all good stuff. but while all that good stuff is happening so is the disparity in wealth between rich and poor. all I'm saying is that the Democrats over the last 40 odd years have played a huge part in creating the economic and social conditions for trump to happen...and they should be held accountable.

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@Sprogladog
So the fact the AVERAGE job rate increase in the US was near 200,000 jobs a MONTH for the past year means nothing to you.
Or how inflation as clearly come down, for instance, my local gas station has gas at 2.99 a gallon, unemployment down to around 3% and the GNP approaching 30 TRILLION dollars while China, touted as passing the economy of the US has tanked and is now under TWENTY tril.
Right now our economy is literally the envy of the world but Trump lies about it all the time, we are in the GARBAGE economically is his trolling POS.
He HAS to make people believe that so he can rule with fear. THAT IS ALL HE HAS.

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@moonbus said
you America. Prove you can still do this, cleanly, safely, fairly, peacefully, and accept the result.
If there is evidence of election fraud? I should still accept the result?
What if it is like the 2000 election and republicans don't want all of the votes counted? A Brooks Brothers riot type of thing should not be fought against?

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