@AverageJoe1 saidGW had similar plans for Iraq's oil; how'd that work out?
This will add to edification what Trump means with what they 'stole', seems like oil men agree with him. You and I need to brush up on the history of oil in Venezuela.
This will also edify you guys that Trump is way ahead of everyone. He has been communicating for some time with the oil businesses. Amazing. Never sleeps. But sonhouse hates him. Go figure.
An ...[text shortened]... one of the major questions following the U.S. military action that captured leader Nicolás Maduro."
Plus there's the little detail that the US now "runs" Venezuela only in Trump's semi-senile mind; the Chavistas remain in power minus Maduro.
@no1marauder saidOf course, but that law is subject to interpretation, and I naturally lean ro ridding our hemisphere of scum. So as i sit in the panel, I will stretch every word as far as I can to do some ridding. How about YOU agree with me that this guy is responsible for American deaths? One I know of, so as I sit on the panel, I will have ONE reason to imprison him for 40 years. To me the number of killings is irrelevant. If you kill someone, I will hope are imprisoned for at least 40 years.
"The law states the president can only introduce forces into hostilities under three conditions: a congressional declaration of war, specific statutory authorization, or a national emergency created by an attack on the United States or its forces."
None of those conditions existed. Surely we can agree on that.
"National emergency created...' has a nice ring to it. go ahead, though, look at the laaaaaawwww. and save his ass. I am looking at the same law.
@no1marauder said'Runs' is political rhetoric. If I run a company that I just bought, I will hire some people to actually run it. But what does run mean. The people Trump hires will be businessmen WHO WILL IN TURN hire the local businessmen in Venezuela to make decisions on recreating a life. Trump will personally run nothing, he will be busy, maybe with Columbia, or maybe with this simply getting his message out to the American People.
GW had similar plans for Iraq's oil; how'd that work out?
Plus there's the little detail that the US now "runs" Venezuela only in Trump's semi-senile mind; the Chavistas remain in power minus Maduro.
W All due respects, You might want to listen
@AverageJoe1 saidThere's already people "running" Venezuela and by their public statements they aren't interested in Trump's ideas for their country.
'Runs' is political rhetoric. If I run a company that I just bought, I will hire some people to actually run it. But what does run mean. The people Trump hires will be businessmen WHO WILL IN TURN hire the local businessmen in Venezuela to make decisions on recreating a life. Trump will personally run nothing, he will be busy, maybe with Columbia, or maybe with thi ...[text shortened]... ply getting his message out to the American People.
W All due respects, You might want to listen
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@no1marauder saidMy maid is not interested in what I tell her to do in the kitchen. She best do it.
There's already people "running" Venezuela and by their public statements they aren't interested in Trump's ideas for their country.
Edit: Imagine Trump saying, oh, i'm so sorry, you pitiful oil wretches, what would you have me do?
My golf group toying with being among the first to play Lagunita Country Club in Caracas. Seriously! A diff feel than Scotland, I am sure.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou left out " by an attack on the United States or its armed forces." Venezuela never did either.
Of course, but that law is subject to interpretation, and I naturally lean ro ridding our hemisphere of scum. So as i sit in the panel, I will stretch every word as far as I can to do some ridding. How about YOU agree with me that this guy is responsible for American deaths? One I know of, so as I sit on the panel, I will have ONE reason to imprison him for 40 years. ...[text shortened]... to it. go ahead, though, look at the laaaaaawwww. and save his ass. I am looking at the same law.
I haven't bothered to mention the UN Charter since right wingers think international law only applies to the other guy, but it also bans the use of force against other nations except in self-defense or with UN Security Council authorization. That's a treaty the US signed.
@AverageJoe1 saidYour maid is employed by you; the present people running Venezuela are not employed by Donald Trump. He can threaten and bluster all he wants, but unless he's ready to militarily occupy the country, they retain power in Venezuela.
My maid is not interested in what I tell her to do in the kitchen. She best do it.
Edit: Imagine Trump saying, oh, i'm so sorry, you pitiful oil wretches, what would you have me do?
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@no1marauder saidHere again, interpretation at the fore!!! He is the boss, man. He can pull anything. he wants to, to get the 'attentiono' of these floundering oil men. Do you think he is just going to hand it over to them? Sue is right, it is more about oil than drugs. I think T will prevail, no matter what they 'think'. He was not exactly wasting his time here. He is thinking at last 4 steps in front of where you are thinking.
Your maid is employed by you; the present people running Venezuela are not employed by Donald Trump. He can threaten and bluster all he wants, but unless he's ready to militarily occupy the country, they retain power in Venezuela.
And jut a peace keeping force will be adequite in my opinion,....I know,I know, uu libs love that word 'occupy!' like Wall street. Whre did that get you?
OK, keep it interesting, i am talking too much. What do you think, now that Maduro is gone,, should happen? Don't be naive about the 'they took our oll rights', and we want them back. Just let them have it???
@no1marauder saidJust about anything can be interpreted as an attack. For instance, and you will disagree, there is no question in my mind...The invasion at our border was/is an attack. So in the Panel, I would first ask for a show of hands, as I brandish a photo of Jocelyn , who was murdered by illegal cretins whom you have defended since day One.
You left out " by an attack on the United States or its armed forces." Venezuela never did either.
I haven't bothered to mention the UN Charter since right wingers think international law only applies to the other guy, but it also bans the use of force against other nations except in self-defense or with UN Security Council authorization. That's a treaty the US signed.
So, an attack.
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@AverageJoe1 saidNo, it can't except by dishonest clowns like yourself. The folks who wrote the War Powers Act didn't use words that were meaningless, they meant an attack by violent military means not some isolated murder by inhabitants of a country.
Just about anything can be interpreted as an attack. For instance, and you will disagree, there is no question in my mind...The invasion at our border was/is an attack. So in the Panel, I would first ask for a show of hands, as I brandish a photo of Jocelyn , who was murdered by illegal cretins whom you have defended since day One.
So, an attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bikoNmXvw_U
This is the type of ridiculous BS Trump and his sycophants are reduced to in lame attempts to justify clear violations of the law and Constitution.
@no1marauder saidWe disagree, surely you just that 20 million illegal aliens crossing over the river is not an invasion. It is, of course. So as an invasion, I think it qualifies as an attack, since they attacked our citizens. I’m not gonna argue this point out, we have stated our opinions, I only say this to let you know that we all have different opinions.
No, it can't except by dishonest clowns like yourself. The folks who wrote the War Powers Act didn't use words that were meaningless, they meant an attack by violent military means not some isolated murder by inhabitants of a country.
This is the type of ridiculous BS Trump and his sycophants are reduced to in lame attempts to justify clear violations of the law and Constitution.
Take for instance, the opinion of the Wall Street Journal, which is in total disagreement with you. And the world goes round and round. At least Maduro is the hell out of there.
The Wall Street Journal opinion pages largely endorse the capture as justified and strategically important, frame it as a defeat of a repressive leader, and call for careful planning for Venezuela’s political future — even as they rebut critics who say the action was illegal or destabilizi
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The future!,?!?!? Libs care not nor think not about the future,,witness the lack of planning by liberals, who come as begging parasites, gimmemoney, from producers. Start w having more children than they afford.
Look at Sonhouse, still writing about the past every day.
But as trump looks ahead to the future of Venezuela. I sure hope he does not have a resort built down there (for me to go to) or you libs will hanng him in effigy