@uzless saidso palestinians don't have the right to defend themselves, right? just like Israel defends itself by bombing civilians, surely palestinians can do the same? you wouldn't be a hypocrite, right?
So kind, so peaceful, so unjustly forced to have soldiers make sure they don't fire rockets at Israel and kill jews.....
oh, wait..what? they just blew up 3 buses in Israel using bombs and tried to blow up 2 other ones? Say it ain't so!!!
It must be a lie...right?
@Zahlanzi saidOf course they have that right and they have been exercising that right for over 120 years. Let me know if you want a list of the terrorist acts they committed.
so palestinians don't have the right to defend themselves, right? just like Israel defends itself by bombing civilians, surely palestinians can do the same? you wouldn't be a hypocrite, right?
The point of the opening post is that there is supposed to be a ceasefire but that does not work, between these two groups.
@Zahlanzi saidif i bomb you, so you then bomb me, then i say i have to bomb you again because you bombed me, then you say you have to bomb me again because i bombed you again...when does it stop?
so palestinians don't have the right to defend themselves, right? just like Israel defends itself by bombing civilians, surely palestinians can do the same? you wouldn't be a hypocrite, right?
All the palestinians have to do is STOP killing jews and israel will pull out of the occupied territories but palestians will not stop killing jews so the cycle goes on forever.
Pure idiocy. But the Palestinians view the loss of the land where israel is to be unacceptable and they must get it back because once land falls under muslim control it is ALWAYS muslim land and MUST be re-taken and so it's put under the House of War as per the Qu'ran.
Time to admit the truth, folks.
@uzless said"if i bomb you, so you then bomb me, then i say i have to bomb you again because you bombed me, then you say you have to bomb me again because i bombed you again...when does it stop?"
if i bomb you, so you then bomb me then i say i have to bomb you again because you bombed me, then you say you have to bomb me again because i bombed you again...when does it stop?
All the palestinians have to do is STOP killing jews and israel will pull out of the occupied territories but palestians will not stop killing jews so the cycle goes on forever.
Pure idiocy ...[text shortened]... -taken and so it's put under the House of War as per the Qu'ran.
Time to admit the truth, folks.
i am guessing when the side that has billions of dollars in military equipment stops occupying the side that is fighting with pipe bomb and stops bombing them
"But the Palestinians view the loss of the land where israel is to be unacceptable and they must get it back because once land falls under muslim control it is ALWAYS muslim land and MUST be re-taken and so it's put under the House of War as per the Qu'ran."
your brain is a hunk of molded cheese if you think palestinians think they have a chance in hell to occupy Israel. they have lost land again and again for 50+ years so why don't you ask "where does it stop" in that case?
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@uzless saidFunny, I don't remember the citizens of Northern Ireland ever being collectively characterized as guilty of crimes against humanity for the activities of the IRA.
if i bomb you, so you then bomb me, then i say i have to bomb you again because you bombed me, then you say you have to bomb me again because i bombed you again...when does it stop?
All the palestinians have to do is STOP killing jews and israel will pull out of the occupied territories but palestians will not stop killing jews so the cycle goes on forever.
Pure idioc ...[text shortened]... -taken and so it's put under the House of War as per the Qu'ran.
Time to admit the truth, folks.
What's the difference?
Oh yes: brown people. 'Natch.
@Soothfast saidThe tiny Israel is well aware of that and has removed the nuclear capability of all natons that directly made such threats. The point is the war has to end. Apparently nobody seems to know how to do it.
Tiny countries like Israel that would fall almost entirely within the fallout radius of a single dirty nuclear bomb set off in a basement should probably tread more carefully than that.
Anyway DeepSeek says this about the issue :
Israel has conducted several operations aimed at disrupting or destroying nuclear capabilities in the region. Here are some notable examples:
Operation Opera (1981): Israel destroyed an unfinished Iraqi nuclear reactor, known as Osirak, near Baghdad. This operation was a significant preventive strike against a potential nuclear weapons program, as Israel believed the reactor could be used to produce nuclear weapons36.
Operation Outside the Box (2007): Israel conducted an airstrike on a suspected nuclear reactor in Syria, known as the Al Kibar site. This operation was aimed at preventing Syria from developing nuclear weapons capability5.
Recent Strikes in Iran (2024): Israel reportedly destroyed an active nuclear weapons research facility in Iran during airstrikes in October 2024. This facility was part of Iran's alleged nuclear weapons program, although Iran claims it was inactive. The strike significantly damaged equipment crucial for nuclear weapons development124.
In summary, Israel has successfully destroyed or significantly disrupted nuclear capabilities in Iraq and Syria, and has recently targeted facilities in Iran believed to be involved in nuclear weapons research. However, the extent to which these actions have completely eliminated the nuclear capabilities of these countries remains a matter of ongoing debate and concern.
@Soothfast saidWrong. The difference is :
Funny, I don't remember the citizens of Northern Ireland ever being collectively characterized as guilty of crimes against humanity for the activities of the IRA.
What's the difference?
Oh yes: brown people. 'Natch.
There is a lack of distinction Between Hamas and civilians: In the context of military operations, Israel and other parties sometimes fail to clearly distinguish between Hamas fighters and the broader civilian population. For example on Oct 7th attack, Hamas started and civilians joined.
Gaza celebrates the killing of Jews, by dancing in the streets, dragging dead bodies for all to see and sharing chocolates etc
Hamas' Use of Civilian Areas: Hamas often operates from within civilian areas, which can lead to civilian casualties during Israeli military operations. This tactic is criticized for putting civilians in harm's way and can fuel perceptions that Gazans are complicit in Hamas' actions.
Gaza is not Ireland.
@Soothfast saidThe IRA stopped bombing people. They agreed to a peace deal. You do know that, right?
Funny, I don't remember the citizens of Northern Ireland ever being collectively characterized as guilty of crimes against humanity for the activities of the IRA.
What's the difference?
Oh yes: brown people. 'Natch.
Palestinians have been offered dozens of peace deals and rejected everyone of them.
Use a better example next time.
@uzless saidIt's an historical example. The IRA was engaged in bombings and the like for many decades, and during that time—that time in the past, understand, which means many yesterdays ago*—it was never said that the Northern Irish shared in a collective guilt for the actions of a covert terrorist organization operating in their midst. And yes, many attempts were made to broker a peaceful settlement to the dispute over Northern Ireland over the course of half a century and more, which the IRA spurned or scuttled.
The IRA stopped bombing people. They agreed to a peace deal. You do know that, right?
Palestinians have been offered dozens of peace deals and rejected everyone of them.
Use a better example next time.
* There is this thing called "time." The way it works is that events X, Y, and Z happen in a sequence. For instance, X may occur first, then Y, and then finally Z. These events could occur in the sequence XYZ in the same spatial coordinates, or different coordinates. This is because space constitutes three other dimensions independent of time, thereby forming a four-dimensional continuum that physicists often refer to as "spacetime." So, given a sequence of events XYZ as described above, at the time Y occurs, one would say that X occurred in the "past" and Z will occur in the "future." Please do not hesitate to let me know if any of this is unclear. Thanks.
@ManDelaMaza saidGreat idea. If Gaza were turned into a resort, then at least bombings that happened there would be killing off privileged rich folks instead of the indigent and powerless.
Yes.
Manifest Destiny
Coming to think of it, old bean, you ought to book a reservation in the first Trump resort that goes up by the seaside.
@Soothfast saidIf Gaza was turned into a resort Palestinians living there would be expelled, and there would be no need for bombings.
Great idea. If Gaza were turned into a resort, then at least bombings that happened there would be killing off privileged rich folks instead of the indigent and powerless.
Coming to think of it, old bean, you ought to book a reservation in the first Trump resort that goes up by the seaside.