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    05 Aug '18 01:36
    The best way to measure the worst Presidents is by the number of Americans who died under his watch:

    1. Lincoln
    2. FDR
    3. Wilson
    4. Johnson
    5. Truman

    No other Presidents come close.
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    05 Aug '18 02:52
    Originally posted by @whodey
    The best way to measure the worst Presidents is by the number of Americans who died under his watch:

    1. Lincoln
    2. FDR
    3. Wilson
    4. Johnson
    5. Truman

    No other Presidents come close.
    What are the numbers of the dead for your examples? Just curious.
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    05 Aug '18 06:37
    Originally posted by @whodey
    The best way to measure the worst Presidents is by the number of Americans who died under his watch:

    1. Lincoln
    2. FDR
    3. Wilson
    4. Johnson
    5. Truman

    No other Presidents come close.
    So you are implying Trump must be GREAT since so few died under his watch. Isn't that about it?
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    05 Aug '18 07:01
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    So you are implying Trump must be GREAT since so few died under his watch. Isn't that about it?
    Sharp!
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    05 Aug '18 07:10
    I'm going with... False.
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    05 Aug '18 12:33
    Originally posted by @whodey
    The best way to measure the worst Presidents is by the number of Americans who died under his watch:

    1. Lincoln
    2. FDR
    3. Wilson
    4. Johnson
    5. Truman

    No other Presidents come close.
    The best way?
    Are you on drugs?

    Surely a prssident with 2 terms has more deaths than a president with only 1?

    Are you counting civilian deaths as well (due to illness, etc.)?
    Are you taking into account the population growth?
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    05 Aug '18 13:58
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    So you are implying Trump must be GREAT since so few died under his watch. Isn't that about it?
    No, but it sounds like someone's conscience may still be alive.
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    05 Aug '18 14:00
    Originally posted by @shavixmir
    The best way?
    Are you on drugs?

    Surely a prssident with 2 terms has more deaths than a president with only 1?

    Are you counting civilian deaths as well (due to illness, etc.)?
    Are you taking into account the population growth?
    Speaking of drugs, about 120 a day in the US die from drug over doses.

    So should Trump be blamed for that?


    Or should we include the 50 million plus abortions since Roe vs. Wade?

    Good question.

    I was mostly focusing on war decisions made by previous presidents that they made personally.
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    05 Aug '18 14:01
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    I'm going with... False.
    What should it be based upon then, how they made you feel or the number of entitlements they create?
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    05 Aug '18 14:05
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Speaking of drugs, about 120 a day in the US die from drug over doses.

    So should Trump be blamed for that?


    Or should we include the 50 million plus abortions since Roe vs. Wade?

    Good question.

    I was mostly focusing on war decisions made by previous presidents that they made personally.
    Well, you can’t count abortions, can you?

    You don’t count miscarriages or hankies full of cum either.
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    05 Aug '18 14:18
    Originally posted by @shavixmir
    Well, you can’t count abortions, can you?

    You don’t count miscarriages or hankies full of cum either.
    You don't count accidents.

    For example, if there were a census you would not be counted.


    😛
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    05 Aug '18 14:30
    Originally posted by @whodey
    What should it be based upon then, how they made you feel or the number of entitlements they create?
    Which "entitlements" do you think should be abolished?
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    06 Aug '18 05:21
    Originally posted by @whodey
    The best way to measure the worst Presidents is by the number of Americans who died under his watch:

    1. Lincoln
    2. FDR
    3. Wilson
    4. Johnson
    5. Truman

    No other Presidents come close.
    Would FDR have been a better President IYO if he had surrendered to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor?
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    06 Aug '18 17:12
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    Which "entitlements" do you think should be abolished?
    The entitling of private citizens and corporations to land that they do not use should be more heavily taxed. But Trump does the opposite 🙁
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    06 Aug '18 17:28
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Would FDR have been a better President IYO if he had surrendered to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor?
    I find it odd that FDR did not seem to have a clue that it was coming, only to seemingly break their code a few month latter at Midway.

    It's almost as if he needed that as a catalyst to generate support for war.
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