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Trump BLEW the element of surprise in Iran.

Trump BLEW the element of surprise in Iran.

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@AverageJoe1 said
It is entertaining, I must admit. Amazing the detail they go into as if what they say makes a hill of beans. Meanwhile, we have men protecting our country who at the drop of a hat can jump into a plane and do what they did last week, totally unappreciated by the people who they are protecting , who would be everyone on this forum.
Even Zahlanzi , and that is getting pretty bad. Shav et al are harmless,,,,but Zahlanzi?? Brrrrrrr
I find it embarrassing that you morons take a shot at our useless president as a comment on our troops. Stop lying!

It's unfortunate that our troops have to work for such a megalomaniac.

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@sonhouse said
Entertaining. Right, just what someone would say when they can't see what is in front of our noses.
You think, what, I am LYING about Trump blowing the military surprise attack when he FKING ANNOUNCES it on TV, going, maybe I will, maybe I won't, you SERIOUSLY think Iran intel folks don't watch TV?
If you think I am full of bull crap, EXPLAIN the FACT there were DOZENS of ...[text shortened]... planes shot down?
ESPECIALLY when they had several DAYS warning, thanks to the STUPIDITY of Trump.
The Forum is blessed with Military minds. I did not think of ANY of that. I guess no one did.

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@AverageJoe1 said
The Forum is blessed with Military minds. I did not think of ANY of that. I guess no one did.
Lets see, who has actual military experience and study of military, Sonhouse or averagejoe?

Lets see, which one of us has FOUR YEARS in the military and which one has ZERO?

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@sonhouse said
Lets see, who has actual military experience and study of military, Sonhouse or averagejoe?

Lets see, which one of us has FOUR YEARS in the military and which one has ZERO?
But aren’t you writing about mechanics, that you can wire a B-52? That is not military experience.
Oooohhh Sonhouse. Please don’t have Susie think you were in the war room, deciding whether to turn left or right when they got to Yemen..

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@sonhouse said
So Trump BLEATS out I might bomb Iran, maybe I won't, I don't know, NOBODY knows.
It seems IRAN knew, DAYS in advance and so got DOZENS of trucks and hauled out a reported 900 odd pounds of highly enriched Uranium and no doubt HYNDREDS of centrifuges, I bet at LEAST ten would fit in a truck and there were LITERALLY dozens.
How STUPID can one person be, COMMANDER IN CHIEF ...[text shortened]... bre.
Think what could have happened if Bush went, well, we MIGHT attack Iraq, maybe we won't......
Your Thread title is false. Trump had Israel bomb Iran in the middle of negotiations. It was an unprovoked surprise attack. Trump did not intend to obliterate Iran's nuclear program. If he did that he would have no excuse to invade Iran.

Trump is willing to ease sanctions now for a nuclear deal. He would not do that if he believed he "obliterated" Irans nuke program. Common sense. It will become so obvious expect Trump to flip flop on that one too. He is the flip flopper in chief.

This is not about regime change. Later in that same day. It is about regime change. Without a nuclear program what would be his excuse? He would have none.

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@Metal-Brain said
Your Thread title is false. Trump had Israel bomb Iran in the middle of negotiations. It was an unprovoked surprise attack. Trump did not intend to obliterate Iran's nuclear program. If he did that he would have no excuse to invade Iran.

Trump is willing to ease sanctions now for a nuclear deal. He would not do that if he believed he "obliterated" Irans nuke program. C ...[text shortened]... . It is about regime change. Without a nuclear program what would be his excuse? He would have none.
All that has nothing to do with the FACT Trump BLEW his ability for a surprise attack allowing Iran to move their stock of enriched uranium and hundreds of centrifuges out of harms way DAYS before the attack,
This is failure of military tactics 101. Broadcast you intentions.
GREAT STUPID move. Maybe I will attack, Maybe I won't
THAT is what I am talking about, not any other political consideration.
The attack by Trump missed its goal by a mile no matter HOW effective the actual bombs were.


@sonhouse said
All that has nothing to do with the FACT Trump BLEW his ability for a surprise attack allowing Iran to move their stock of enriched uranium and hundreds of centrifuges out of harms way DAYS before the attack,
This is failure of military tactics 101. Broadcast you intentions.
GREAT STUPID move. Maybe I will attack, Maybe I won't
THAT is what I am talking about, not any o ...[text shortened]... ation.
The attack by Trump missed its goal by a mile no matter HOW effective the actual bombs were.
Trump did not intend to obliterate Iran's nuclear program. If he did that he would have no excuse to invade Iran. He can only blow it if he intended to do it.

I was right. He flip plopped again.

https://modernity.news/2025/06/27/trump-says-he-would-bomb-iran-again-without-question-not-looking-to-drop-sanctions/

Don't you see. Trump is controlled because they have him on film doing a young girl. Epstein was working for the Mossad.


@sonhouse said
So Trump BLEATS out I might bomb Iran, maybe I won't, I don't know, NOBODY knows.
It seems IRAN knew, DAYS in advance and so got DOZENS of trucks and hauled out a reported 900 odd pounds of highly enriched Uranium and no doubt HYNDREDS of centrifuges, I bet at LEAST ten would fit in a truck and there were LITERALLY dozens.
How STUPID can one person be, COMMANDER IN CHIEF ...[text shortened]... bre.
Think what could have happened if Bush went, well, we MIGHT attack Iraq, maybe we won't......
Nobody other than Trump can understand The Weave.

I did see the aerial photo of the trucks lined up outside the Fordow facility a couple of days before the bombing.

Maybe there's more to this script than meets the eye.

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@Arkturos said
Nobody other than Trump can understand The Weave.

I did see the aerial photo of the trucks lined up outside the Fordow facility a couple of days before the bombing.

Maybe there's more to this script than meets the eye.
how many trucks do you think it takes to haul 900 pounds?

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
how many trucks do you think it takes to haul 900 pounds?
You REALLY are as stupid as they say.
A couple of trucks can take a half ton of uranium. It is not as easy as filling a bucket with the stuff, each bucket has to be really well shielded from the massive radiation coming off of 800 odd pounds of highly enriched uranium.

They wanted the rest of the trucks for as many centrifuges as possible to set up operation in a more secret place.
There were over ten THOUSAND centrifuges in those sites.
But you are just another Trumpite propagandist also hoping for a cushy job in what you hope is the coming Trump dictatorship.
You are transparent.

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@Mott-The-Hoople

The trucks might have been lined with lead for a reason I hope would be obvious, which might have limited the practical amount of weight available for the cargo.

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@Arkturos said
@Mott-The-Hoople

The trucks might have been lined with lead for a reason I hope would be obvious, which might have limited the practical amount of weight available for the cargo.
Good luck getting that idiot to understand anything to do with science.
What I thought was the buckets they carry the stuff in was lined with something like lead to stop radiation but like you said, it could be on the Truck, maybe both,
I had to deal with radiation on on of my jobs and for the app I was working on a half inch thick aluminum was enough to stop the radiation coming off the highly radioactive isotope of iron, iron 59. it was the radiation source to detect the thickness of an electron evaporation of titanium, looking at 500 nanometer thick layers, the reflectivity told how thick the layer was.
So it might not HAVE to be lead and if aluminum would work against the radiation given off by uranium that would be a LOT lighter.
But I never worked with uranium so I might be full of poop🙂

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@sonhouse said
Good luck getting that idiot to understand anything to do with science.
What I thought was the buckets they carry the stuff in was lined with something like lead to stop radiation but like you said, it could be on the Truck, maybe both,
I had to deal with radiation on on of my jobs and for the app I was working on a half inch thick aluminum was enough to stop the radiation ...[text shortened]... y uranium that would be a LOT lighter.
But I never worked with uranium so I might be full of poop🙂
If the cup is full, how can it be filled?

If the cup is small, there's not much one can do.

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@Arkturos said
If the cup is full, how can it be filled?

If the cup is small, there's not much one can do.
What does that mean? They have near 900 pounds of 60% uranium they took out and the question is how thick would the lead lining be if they were in say a thousand cans or whatever, that would be about one pound per can. Don't know how much lead it takes to stop uranium radiation. I would imagine though that 4% would radiate less than 60%.

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@sonhouse said
What does that mean? They have near 900 pounds of 60% uranium they took out and the question is how thick would the lead lining be if they were in say a thousand cans or whatever, that would be about one pound per can. Don't know how much lead it takes to stop uranium radiation. I would imagine though that 4% would radiate less than 60%.
I feel somewhat stymied at the moment.

Grandpa, perhaps I should explain that I wasn't talking about the trucks. 😉