@wildgrass saidEven if it is illegal, do you still agree with the principle of our country NOT funding the items listed here? It is a fair question. I hope you will open it for discussion.
Closing AID is not up to me or Trump, but I could vote accordingly.
He's just doing illegal things and we'll spend the next year litigating but the ultimate result will be unproductive. You and he will blame others, but ultimately he's just an ineffective leader.
https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/press-release/chairman-mast-exposes-outrageous-usaid-and-state-department-grants/
@AverageJoe1 saidI've told you before you raving idiot, I don't have the time you do to waste 24/7 on this Forum.
Your first statement is mostly correct. Your 2nd is Sonhouse stuff.
Tell us you like that they gave money for condoms to taliban, trans comic books to peru, drag show in Ecuador, big time money for LDBTMQT all over the place, etc etc.
Marauder by his silence is saying he agrees with Suzianne's tax money which she worked for being used for all of this.
Here is t ...[text shortened]... naffairs.house.gov/press-release/chairman-mast-exposes-outrageous-usaid-and-state-department-grants/
USAID has a $40 billion yearly budget. https://www.npr.org/2025/02/03/nx-s1-5284978/usaid-agency-international-development-trump
The "waste" you've come up with is nickels and dimes and doesn't justify shutting the whole program down.
I do agree that sending family planning devices to poor countries (the Taliban? Don't be ridiculous) with high birth rates is a good use of foreign aid money, a lot better than sending bigger bombs to Israel for example.
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@AverageJoe1 saidI also don't share your outrage at relatively small amounts of money being spent on things that might make the lives of oppressed minorities in other countries a little more pleasant.
Even if it is illegal, do you still agree with the principle of our country NOT funding the items listed here? It is a fair question. I hope you will open it for discussion.
https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/press-release/chairman-mast-exposes-outrageous-usaid-and-state-department-grants/
EDIT: That is, of course, accepting a right wing politician's description of those programs which may or may not be accurate.
@no1marauder saidOf course you dont 😂
I also don't share your outrage at relatively small amounts of money being spent on things that might make the lives of oppressed minorities in other countries a little more pleasant.
@Mott-The-Hoople said(Shrug) I'm not motivated by hatred of small minorities like right wingers are.
Of course you dont 😂
@no1marauder saidOK. If there is no OTHER government waste, I think our govt should first support the 50M US desperate people. America First. Then, IF there is no government waste...if there is no pesky government waste, we send support to starving people in far reaches of the planet.
I also don't share your outrage at relatively small amounts of money being spent on things that might make the lives of oppressed minorities in other countries a little more pleasant.
EDIT: That is, of course, accepting a right wing politician's description of those programs which may or may not be accurate.
Why did you never mention these desolate people when you were saying we should use $678B to pay for loans of loser college grads who TOLD US they were going to use the money to travel?
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@AverageJoe1 saidI give up on explaining to you that zero money is actually spent when you forgive a debt owed to you.
OK. If there is no OTHER government waste, I think our govt should first support the 50M US desperate people. America First. Then, IF there is no government waste...if there is no pesky government waste, we send support to starving people in far reaches of the planet.
Why did you never mention these desolate people when you were saying we should use $678B to pay for loans of loser college grads who TOLD US they were going to use the money to travel?
True, the US spending on social welfare is miserly but nickel and dimes spent on foreign aid programs aren't the problem.
@AverageJoe1 said10%?
Now here is something you libs can pick , from your pick-and-choose file, and from your cherry picking positions.
You can support this one without your cohorts looking down on you!
Just another of his campaign promises. Note how his promises are specific, not so mushy platitudes that really never could be nailed down. The camel housekeeper was saying ‘“I will fi ...[text shortened]... wn that people are leaving more tips on the table now with this huge attention drawn to his promise.
Yikes.
How are banks going to possibly survive making highly risky unsecured loans at Prime + 2.5 (as of now)?
The only possible way would be to only give credit cards to people who are the absolute lowest credit risks (maybe 800+ score, 6-figure stable income and decades of history).
If you do this, all you're accomplishing is taking credit cards away from 90% of people.
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@no1marauder saidWhat happens if the government cancels the debts?
I give up on explaining to you that zero money is actually spent when you forgive a debt owed to you.
True, the US spending on social welfare is miserly but nickel and dimes spent on foreign aid programs aren't the problem.
Cancelling student debts will immediately increase the federal deficit; how much depends on the value of the forgiven loans.
Suppose the government made a $100 student loan in January and estimated it would bring in a net surplus of $3 over its life. If nothing had changed since January, cancelling that debt would increase the deficit by $103. The government would lose the $100 face value of the loan plus the $3 surplus it expected. (There may also be an effect on tax revenues. That depends on whether the government treats loan forgiveness as taxable income.)
Standing by. Let's re-hash, while we await all the Trump good news. We can then do how long Chinee will wait before they fold. The man (Trump) is a movement.
@AverageJoe1 saidNOBODY in the US had, emphasis HAD, that data, now Muskrat DOES.
They are employees, Wildgrass. Are you aware how many govt employees had access to private info? And you and Marauder seem to think that they can unearth all that they are looking for with their hands tied. So, you don't want them to be successful eiher!?!? Geez
Look at the list on the AID post I just made. Can you tell us you don't want to close this agency? I do. Do you?
Why would Trump let Muskrat into all or most sensitive data, he was refused getting a security clearance BECAUSE he would not divulge what he said to Putin on there many phone calls.
We need a MILITARY junta to kick ALL of them out and in prison, Guantanimo would work for me. Muskrat, Trump, Vance, Johnson, Hegseth, Gabbard, RFKjr, Vought and the rest of the traitorous rat pack billionaires on his cabinet.
They are a vicious disease, a virus from hell infecting EVERY level of government.