Originally posted by ZahlanziYou apparently did not really read my post only scaned through it. I said 'If they also follow the laws...' not that they would follow them. I also never said that there were only nice people in the millitary. Neither did I say we were the only ones standing in their way. They could still try, however, they would have some resitance which is what they are trying to avoid.Yes, we may only have mimutes if the millitary were to march into town, that is why we prepair now. I do use my guns for potection against criminals, however, I know what the founding fathers intended for us to keep and bare arms for and I will not give any right away after they have faught for them, for that is traitorous. And do you really believe we only have a few shotguns?
do you listen to yourself? can you be more confused than that? or more paranoid? so you are saying that the military will follow laws and not use force on your soil but the big bad government want a new world order. and the only thing that stand in the way of their plan of global domination is southerners(not to use the word redneck) armed with hunting rifl ...[text shortened]... and burglars. i could at least understand that(more than you wanting to be john rambo anyway)
BTW, my Grandpa was not a southerner, he was born and raised in Iowa. 😉
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Originally posted by ZahlanziYou assume the Marines would be all be unsympathetic to American civilians.
do you listen to yourself? can you be more confused than that? or more paranoid? so you are saying that the military will follow laws and not use force on your soil but the big bad government want a new world order. and the only thing that stand in the way of their plan of global domination is southerners(not to use the word redneck) armed with hunting rifl and burglars. i could at least understand that(more than you wanting to be john rambo anyway)
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThe US military has been used against civilians many times without any mutiny that I know of. Have you ever heard of the Bonus Marchers? http://www.historynet.com/the-bonus-army-war-in-washington.htm
You assume the Marines would be all be unsympathetic to American civilians.
Originally posted by no1marauderDid the "Marchers" have any military weapons, or any weapons? No? I rest my case Your Honor.
The US military has been used against civilians many times without any mutiny that I know of. Have you ever heard of the Bonus Marchers? http://www.historynet.com/the-bonus-army-war-in-washington.htm
GRANNY.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungno, i assume that if the government is trying for a "new world order" they would need the support of the army before they do anything. and once they have the support of the army, they will crush any militia, no matter how well armed they are. and they will not act until they have the support of the army.
You assume the Marines would be all be unsympathetic to American civilians.
the revolution in my country started with students with no guns standing in front of the army. soon the army changed and supported the population. if it didn't, the students would have met the same fate as the Tienanmen students. having guns would have turned the protesting students into rebels threatening the security of the nation and the army would not have been sympathetic.
do you think your marines would be sympathetic towards a group armed to the teeth? because in the situation we are discussing, people armed with more than a few shotguns as beta says would no longer be civilians.
Originally posted by Zahlanzido you think your marines would be sympathetic towards a group armed to the teeth?
no, i assume that if the government is trying for a "new world order" they would need the support of the army before they do anything. and once they have the support of the army, they will crush any militia, no matter how well armed they are. and they will not act until they have the support of the army.
the revolution in my country started with students ...[text shortened]... ussing, people armed with more than a few shotguns as beta says would no longer be civilians.
Depends on the circumstances.
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Originally posted by no1marauderThere were a number of Senators and the like who were not happy with this. In any case this was a short lived incident with no gunshots involved except by the police (not military). And, Hoover was not elected to a second term. This sort of thing is just one event; how long would the military fight against their own people during an indefinite, popular insurgency?
The US military has been used against civilians many times without any mutiny that I know of. Have you ever heard of the Bonus Marchers? http://www.historynet.com/the-bonus-army-war-in-washington.htm
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThe point is the troops were quite willing to use force, including deadly force, against the Bonus Marchers who were all war veterans. What makes you think that the US military wouldn't use its counter insurgency tactics against a home grown insurgency?
There were a number of Senators and the like who were not happy with this. In any case this was a short lived incident with no gunshots involved except by the police (not military). And, Hoover was not elected to a second term. This sort of thing is just one event; how long would the military fight against their own people during an indefinite, popular insurgency?
Originally posted by no1marauderOh, they have. Look at post-PENTTBOM.
The point is the troops were quite willing to use force, including deadly force, against the Bonus Marchers who were all war veterans. What makes you think that the US military wouldn't use its counter insurgency tactics against a home grown insurgency?