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Will the west never learn that this naive 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' logic is almost always counter-productive.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17170.htm

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Originally posted by Redmike
Will the west never learn that this naive 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' logic is almost always counter-productive.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17170.htm
I wish these idiots in my government would stop with the meddling already.

However, I suppose it's the most practical way to deal with the fact (if it is indeed a fact) of Iranians doing the same kind of thing in Iraq. We can play that game too, and we're good at it and have far more resources than Iran. I just wish we'd do less of it.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I wish these idiots in my government would stop with the meddling already.

However, I suppose it's the most practical way to deal with the fact (if it is indeed a fact) of Iranians doing the same kind of thing in Iraq. We can play that game too, and we're good at it and have far more resources than Iran. I just wish we'd do less of it.
The difference, though, is that (assuming it is true) Iran is funding people/groups with which it has a common ideology.

The US just seems to be funding anybody at all - from left-wing Kurds to all sorts of Sunni groups.

Anybody would think the US didn't actually want stability in the region.

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Anyone need a reminder about what happened to Iran's only democratically elected government?

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Originally posted by Redmike
The difference, though, is that (assuming it is true) Iran is funding people/groups with which it has a common ideology.

The US just seems to be funding anybody at all - from left-wing Kurds to all sorts of Sunni groups.

Anybody would think the US didn't actually want stability in the region.
I think that 1)if we're going to occupy Iraq/provide security for the government/whatever you want to call it, and 2)Iran is secretly funding irregulars who kill our troops, then this isn't so bad. If we're going to be in Iraq, we'd better do it right, and the only way to challenge under the table sneaky hostile acts as Iran is allegedly doing is to do the same thing right back.

I'm not in favor of us being there, but I'm also not in favor of letting Iran kill our troops even if via covert means with deniability.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I think that 1)if we're going to occupy Iraq/provide security for the government/whatever you want to call it, and 2)Iran is secretly funding irregulars who kill our troops, then this isn't so bad. If we're going to be in Iraq, we'd better do it right, and the only way to challenge under the table sneaky hostile acts as Iran is allegedly doing is to d ...[text shortened]... so not in favor of letting Iran kill our troops even if via covert means with deniability.
Even if we accept all that, I'm not even sure that 'doing the same thing right back' is the best way to counter this.

This might be a short term pain for Iran, but longer term it just adds more loonies with guns to a mix which is already volatile enough.

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Originally posted by Redmike
Even if we accept all that, I'm not even sure that 'doing the same thing right back' is the best way to counter this.

This might be a short term pain for Iran, but longer term it just adds more loonies with guns to a mix which is already volatile enough.
...which is why American troops shouldn't be there.

However, Iran has to live next to those loonies. Americans don't.

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Originally posted by Redmike
Anybody would think the US didn't actually want stability in the region.
Offer that man a cushy diplomatic post like somewhere in the Bahamas, and if he still refuses to tone it down, send in the clean up crew!

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Originally posted by Redmike
Will the west never learn that this naive 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' logic is almost always counter-productive.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17170.htm
First thing first. Anybody who buys into the moral equivalency arguement has a morality that is irrepairably broken. Terrorists target civilians. Those trying to use chlorine gas on civilians in Iraq for example, are terrorrists.

These Iranian groups are attacking military targets. These men employ proper guerrilla tactics.
These men are not terrorists.

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Originally posted by Merk
First thing first. Anybody who buys into the moral equivalency arguement has a morality that is irrepairably broken. Terrorists target civilians. Those trying to use chlorine gas on civilians in Iraq for example, are terrorrists.

These Iranian groups are attacking military targets. These men employ proper guerrilla tactics.
These men are not terrorists.
One person's freedom fighter is another person's terrorist....

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Originally posted by Merk
These Iranian groups are attacking military targets. These men employ proper guerrilla tactics.
These men are not terrorists.
"The Baluchistan-based Brigade of God group, which last year kidnapped and killed eight Iranian soldiers, is a volatile Sunni organisation..."

That's proper guerrilla tactics is it?

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Originally posted by Redmike
One person's freedom fighter is another person's terrorist....
I didn't call them freedom fighters either. They're guerillas.
Terrorists target civilian, guerrillas target military. A persons point of view plays no role here. This is not Israel/Palestine, this is night and day.

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Originally posted by Merk
I didn't call them freedom fighters either. They're guerillas.
Terrorists target civilian, guerrillas target military. A persons point of view plays no role here. This is not Israel/Palestine, this is night and day.
so groups which attack targets such as the pentagon or Iraqi army recruits are guerillas, rather than terrorists.

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Originally posted by aging blitzer
"The Baluchistan-based Brigade of God group, which last year kidnapped and killed eight Iranian soldiers, is a volatile Sunni organisation..."

That's proper guerrilla tactics is it?
Did you notice the targets were military?

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Originally posted by wedgehead2
so groups which attack targets such as the pentagon or Iraqi army recruits are guerillas, rather than terrorists.
Those would be guerilla attacks, yes.