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It could never happen here are the famous last words of those who refuse to learn from history.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/opinion/sunday/germans-loved-obama-now-we-dont-trust-him.html?hp&_r=0

This sums up what I've tried to say on more than once:

In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored.

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Originally posted by Eladar
It could never happen here are the famous last words of those who refuse to learn from history.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/opinion/sunday/germans-loved-obama-now-we-dont-trust-him.html?hp&_r=0

This sums up what I've tried to say on more than once:

[b]In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands u ...[text shortened]... ped. Millions were monitored.


If your mommie is a commie, then you have to turn her in![/b]
Most Americans are too stupid to accept it. They are blinded by the same type of propaganda that the Germans were when the Nazis were in power. You can't convince them their government is doing the same thing. They will deny it because patriotism is all they have at this point.

Reality is too painful to accept. It is called cognitive dissonance. Never underestimate the people's ability to ignore what makes them unhappy.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
Most Americans are too stupid to accept it. They are blinded by the same type of propaganda that the Germans were when the Nazis were in power. You can't convince them their government is doing the same thing. They will deny it because patriotism is all they have at this point.

Reality is too painful to accept. It is called cognitive dissonance. Never underestimate the people's ability to ignore what makes them unhappy.
What you have right now is a bunch of liberals who were too afraid to oppose anything after 9/11, now enraged at themselves and conservatives simultaneously, determined to exact revenge for the confused stealth Democrat that was George W. Bush. They learned nothing from those years and have sent us this supremely self-satisfied man for our entertainment until the country rights its thinking once again. I wonder how the Nobel Committee feels about its award now.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
What you have right now is a bunch of liberals who were too afraid to oppose anything after 9/11, now enraged at themselves and conservatives simultaneously, determined to exact revenge for the confused stealth Democrat that was George W. Bush. They learned nothing from those years and have sent us this supremely self-satisfied man for our entertainmen ...[text shortened]... try rights its thinking once again. I wonder how the Nobel Committee feels about its award now.
Where is old Calvin Coolidge when we need him??!!:'(:'(:'(

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
Most Americans are too stupid to accept it. They are blinded by the same type of propaganda that the Germans were when the Nazis were in power. You can't convince them their government is doing the same thing. They will deny it because patriotism is all they have at this point.

Reality is too painful to accept. It is called cognitive dissonance. Never underestimate the people's ability to ignore what makes them unhappy.
Do you really believe Leftists bow down to Obama due to nationalism? Perhaps the conservatives will bow down in the name of nationalism. The leftists bow down to their desire to promote their leftist ideals and Obama is the guy who can do it. This means that anything that the government does under Obama is OK with them.

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Yes, the U.S. certainly could learn something from the Germans. Learn about universal healthcare, strong unions, excellent public transportation, maintaining a viable manufacturing base, regulating markets, keeping the environment clean -- oh yeah, and they do all this without becoming an evil socialist dictatorship.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Do you really believe Leftists bow down to Obama due to nationalism? Perhaps the conservatives will bow down in the name of nationalism. The leftists bow down to their desire to promote their leftist ideals and Obama is the guy who can do it. This means that anything that the government does under Obama is OK with them.
not all of them are like that. only the obamabots
i would say 1/2 of the party is like that

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