05 Oct 19
@mchill saidAre you really sorry mchill. If you do something you're sorry for and you're actually sorry for it wouldn't you avert from that action. You had plenty of opportunity to correct your action. But you went to the trouble of typing it out.
If the vape folks want to knock years off their life, by inhaling this stuff, then let them. Health departments and funeral homes have the facilities the dispose of them. Sorry to sound so uncaring, but, you can't legislate taste.
You're not really sorry are you mchill, in truth you are actually uncaring, and ya know, that's ok.
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@mchill saidtargeting young children that dont know any better is the main concern
If the vape folks want to knock years off their life, by inhaling this stuff, then let them. Health departments and funeral homes have the facilities the dispose of them. Sorry to sound so uncaring, but, you can't legislate taste.
@wajoma saidI never disagree with Wajoma, but they can do whatever they want to, this being America. But for AvJoe, whatever they do should not affect another person. If they fill up with vape and keel over, should any of my tax money go to pay for the gas in the ambulance that picks them up, or for anything spent on them as their sickness rolls on? God, I hope not. Next, they will be asking me to pay for their college education!!!! Can you imagine? There are some socialists who think I should, and for their meds, etc......have you seen the news?
Are you really sorry mchill. If you do something you're sorry for and you're actually sorry for it wouldn't you avert from that action. You had plenty of opportunity to correct your action. But you went to the trouble of typing it out.
You're not really sorry are you mchill, in truth you are actually uncaring, and ya know, that's ok.
@wajoma saidWe know that you and your hero, Ms. Rand, would approve. We get that.
Are you really sorry mchill. If you do something you're sorry for and you're actually sorry for it wouldn't you avert from that action. You had plenty of opportunity to correct your action. But you went to the trouble of typing it out.
You're not really sorry are you mchill, in truth you are actually uncaring, and ya know, that's ok.
@averagejoe1 saidFear is the mind-killer. Learn to think for yourself.
I never disagree with Wajoma, but they can do whatever they want to, this being America. But for AvJoe, whatever they do should not affect another person. If they fill up with vape and keel over, should any of my tax money go to pay for the gas in the ambulance that picks them up, or for anything spent on them as their sickness rolls on? God, I hope not. Next, they wi ...[text shortened]... ? There are some socialists who think I should, and for their meds, etc......have you seen the news?
06 Oct 19
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@averagejoe1 saidIn the UK cigarettes are taxed so heavily that, I believe, the treasury recoups the costs to the NHS. I don't know what the tax on vapourizer fluid is or what the risks are relative to cigarettes, and this is a big problem as I don't think anyone does. I've smoked for about 30 years and did think about vapourizers as a half-way house for giving up. I didn't, I find them unpleasant somehow and the device is expensive. If they help with smoking cessation then it's a reasonable enough thing to allow them for that purpose, but because the risks are unknown doctors in the UK cannot recommend to patients that they switch to them as they could be worse than cigarettes which are a known risk. People who've never smoked are well advised not to use them.
I never disagree with Wajoma, but they can do whatever they want to, this being America. But for AvJoe, whatever they do should not affect another person. If they fill up with vape and keel over, should any of my tax money go to pay for the gas in the ambulance that picks them up, or for anything spent on them as their sickness rolls on? God, I hope not. Next, they wi ...[text shortened]... ? There are some socialists who think I should, and for their meds, etc......have you seen the news?
06 Oct 19
@deepthought saidThe amount of nicotine, the addictive poison in tobacco, in these products is off the scale. Nicotine was regulated in cigarettes, not so here.
In the UK cigarettes are taxed so heavily that, I believe, the treasury recoups the costs to the NHS. I don't know what the tax on vapourizer fluid is or what the risks are relative to cigarettes, and this is a big problem as I don't think anyone does. I've smoked for about 30 years and did think about vapourizers as a half-way house for giving up. I didn't, I find the ...[text shortened]... han cigarettes which are a known risk. People who've never smoked are well advised not to use them.
06 Oct 19
@wajoma saidI don't think that someone who adheres to the concept of refusing to care for your fellow man is in any position to complain about dishonesty. One is a magnitude worse than the other.
The point was: mchill apologising for something and doing it anyway. This is a form of dishonesty. Do you disagree?
06 Oct 19
@averagejoe1 saidOf course you do. This is an icon of today's Republican... "I've got mine, F--- you."
Wajoma, I go all the way back to 1970 following Ayn Rand. I subscribed to her Newsletter, a missive popular in those days, which was called the"Objectivist". Cool.
06 Oct 19
@suzianne saidDo you have some evidence of 'how I care for others' suzi.
I don't think that someone who adheres to the concept of refusing to care for your fellow man is in any position to complain about dishonesty. One is a magnitude worse than the other.
I expect you're about to run away (your usual response). For a person to express care of others it must be through ones own volition.
Would you agree that apologising for something but doing it anyway is a form of dishonesty?
06 Oct 19
@wajoma saidMore malapropisms from the expert.
Do you have some evidence of 'how I care for others' suzi.
I expect you're about to run away (your usual response). For a person to express care of others it must be through ones own volition.
Would you agree that apologising for something but doing it anyway is a form of dishonesty?
You describe me as "running away". I would describe it as no longer wishing to speak with you as long as you continue with the malapropisms.
And no, I do not absolve you of failing to care for your fellow man just because you don't feel like it. That doesn't absolve you at all. All that means is you don't care, and you don't care that you don't care. Well, no kidding. I'm not at all surprised.
So stop talking about someone else's supposed dishonesty, when you really can't be bothered to care about anyone but yourself. You're not on the moral high ground here.