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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/4243568/Venezuela-and-Bolivia-break-diplomatic-relations-with-Israel.html
Venezuela "has decided to break off diplomatic relations with the state of Israel given the inhumane persecution of the Palestinian people," the foreign ministry said in a statement.
mr.morales told Bolivia's diplomatic corps the Israeli attacks "seriously threatened world peace.''
Is there an ideological factor on this? bolivia is a vassal state, it does whatever venezuela does, I don't think mr.morales knows what he's doing.
"seriously threatened world peace.''
So mr. morales thinks that Israel shouln't defend itself from terrorists just to please the so called ''world peace''?
Is there an intelligent reason for this break of diplomatic relations?
15 Jan 09
Originally posted by generalissimoIs there an ideological factor in Zionism?
Is there an ideological factor on this?
Is there an ideological factor in Anti-Zionism?
Is there an ideological factor in the Hamas version of jihadism?
Is there a Pope is a Catholic factor when bears defecate in the woods?
16 Jan 09
Originally posted by generalissimoI'm not sure that Chavez is mentally stable enough to understand what's happening in Israel/Palestinian Terr. or what diplomatic relations are or what they mean (see, e.g., ). The equation in his mind on this issue is quite simple:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/4243568/Venezuela-and-Bolivia-break-diplomatic-relations-with-Israel.html
Venezuela "has decided to break off diplomatic relations with the state of Israel given the inhumane persecution of the Palestinian people," the foreign ministry said in a statement.
mr.morales told Bol ...[text shortened]... ace''?
Is there an intelligent reason for this break of diplomatic relations?
1) I hate Bush
2) Bush supports Israel
ergo
3) I hate Israel
16 Jan 09
Originally posted by sh76Thats what I thought as well, and bolivia is just following venezuela, just like they did in other times when ideology was a factor, such as the colombia-ecuador crisis.
I'm not sure that Chavez is mentally stable enough to understand what's happening in Israel/Palestinian Terr. or what diplomatic relations are or what they mean (see, e.g., http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=binMjEiS8AY). The equation in his mind on this issue is quite simple:
1) I hate Bush
2) Bush supports Israel
ergo
3) I hate Israel
16 Jan 09
Originally posted by generalissimo"Thought" seems to be a poor choice of words for what goes on between your ears.
Thats what I thought as well, and bolivia is just following venezuela, just like they did in other times when ideology was a factor, such as the colombia-ecuador crisis.
Some countries actually disapprove of military actions that kill over a thousand people including many civilians even children. Some countries express that disapproval by diplomatic means like severing formal diplomatic relations.
Crazy I know, but there you have it.
16 Jan 09
Originally posted by no1marauderwhy won't they disapprove of the violent ways of hamas?
"Thought" seems to be a poor choice of words for what goes on between your ears.
Some countries actually disapprove of military actions that kill over a thousand people including many civilians even children. Some countries express that disapproval by diplomatic means like severing formal diplomatic relations.
Crazy I know, but there you have it.
16 Jan 09
Originally posted by FMFNo.
Is there an ideological factor in Zionism?
Is there an ideological factor in Anti-Zionism?
Is there an ideological factor in the Hamas version of jihadism?
Is there a Pope is a Catholic factor when bears defecate in the woods?
but in the case of the break of diplomatic relations, I suspect there is.
16 Jan 09
Originally posted by generalissimo"seriously threatened world peace.''
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/4243568/Venezuela-and-Bolivia-break-diplomatic-relations-with-Israel.html
Venezuela "has decided to break off diplomatic relations with the state of Israel given the inhumane persecution of the Palestinian people," the foreign ministry said in a statement.
mr.morales told Bol ...[text shortened]... ace''?
Is there an intelligent reason for this break of diplomatic relations?
So mr. morales thinks that Israel shouln't defend itself from terrorists just to please the so called ''world peace''?
If you read the history of the state of Isreal you will know who are the terrorists, and who are the victims, although you , and many like you, are very brain washed to see the very clear truth!!
18 Jan 09
Originally posted by generalissimoTerrorists kill babies. And so far Israel has killed 300+ in two weeks.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/4243568/Venezuela-and-Bolivia-break-diplomatic-relations-with-Israel.html
Venezuela "has decided to break off diplomatic relations with the state of Israel given the inhumane persecution of the Palestinian people," the foreign ministry said in a statement.
mr.morales told Bol ...[text shortened]... ace''?
Is there an intelligent reason for this break of diplomatic relations?
That's pretty good going.
18 Jan 09
Originally posted by generalissimoIf you don't know the state of Isreal is occupying the Palestinian lands that Hamas (accept it or not) represents using a democratic election. And so they are trying to return their lands, is this their right or not.
defend themselves?
they want to destroy the israeli state, this is not about self-defense.
19 Jan 09
Originally posted by ahosyneyIsrael does not "occupy" Gaza. They withdrew from Gaza 3 years ago. Yes, Israel does not allow the free movement of goods into and out of the territory because it is trying to prevent weapons smuggling (albeit not very successfully, unfortunately). Hamas does not need to "defend itself." All they have to do is stop attacking Israel and they'll be perfectly safe. You think Israel gives a damn who has civil control of Gaza, Ramallah, Jerico, etc., be it Fatah of Hamas? Of course not. The ONLY thing Israel wants is not to be the subject of attacks, be them rocket attacks or suicide bombings. Whether you think they've gone about it correctly is a different issue; but that is and always has been the fundamental reason for the conflict and thinking anything otherwise is ignorant or ludicrous.
If you don't know the state of Isreal is occupying the Palestinian lands that Hamas (accept it or not) represents using a democratic election. And so they are trying to return their lands, is this their right or not.
Does Israel claim to have a religious need to kill Hamas or Fatah or the Arabs or Palestinians? No.
Does Hamas call for Israel's destruction in its charter? Yes.
I don't understand how anyone could even debate the underlying cause of the conflict. It's clear as day.