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According to a website 56% of cases in Italy are surviving this in 44% or not in finished cases. I did the math and somehow if no one ever got it again in Italy and the rest that have it still surviving it would bring the survival rate up to 89%.


@rbhill said
According to a website 56% of cases in Italy are surviving this in 44% or not in finished cases. I did the math and somehow if no one ever got it again in Italy and the rest that have it still surviving it would bring the survival rate up to 89%.
The problem with this is the system is so totally overwhelmed there is no way of knowing the total number of cases to work out accurate percentages. Who knows how many people there are with undiagnosed lower grade viral illnesses and of course there are asymptomatic cases as well. It's hard to even imagine what it must be like over there. No words cover it.


@petewxyz said
The problem with this is the system is so totally overwhelmed there is no way of knowing the total number of cases to work out accurate percentages. Who knows how many people there are with undiagnosed lower grade viral illnesses and of course there are asymptomatic cases as well. It's hard to even imagine what it must be like over there. No words cover it.
For sure


MILAN—In the town of Coccaglio, an hour’s drive east of here, the local nursing home lost over a third of its residents in March. None of the 24 people who died there were tested for the new coronavirus. Nor were the 38 people who died in another nursing home in the nearby town of Lodi.

These aren’t isolated incidents. Italy’s official death toll from the virus stands at 13,155, the most of any country in the world. But that number tells only part of the story because many people who die from the virus don’t make it to the hospital and are never tested.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/italys-coronavirus-death-toll-is-far-higher-than-reported-11585767179


Evidently Italy is moving Carona virus patients who are still contageous into their retirement homes to make room in hospitals.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/italy-doctors-warn-of-bio-bombs-from-patients-sent-to-care-homes/ar-BB11Zovn

Italian doctors and unions have warned that a government policy to send patients discharged from hospital but still positive for coronavirus to care homes is like priming "biological bombs".

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@eladar said
MILAN—In the town of Coccaglio, an hour’s drive east of here, the local nursing home lost over a third of its residents in March. None of the 24 people who died there were tested for the new coronavirus. Nor were the 38 people who died in another nursing home in the nearby town of Lodi.

These aren’t isolated incidents. Italy’s official death toll from the virus stands at 13 ...[text shortened]... d from hospital but still positive for coronavirus to care homes is like priming "biological bombs".
There was an article concerning the equivalent effect in the UK on the BBC website. According to the Department of Health's coronavirus figures there had been 170 deaths by the 20th of March in England and Wales, however the Office of National Statistics list 210 people as having died of the disease by that date. The difference of 40 is people whose death certificates had the cause of death entered as "probably coronavirus" by a doctor, but who had not been tested for it and were not cases.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52103808


Hopefully the UK is not moving contagious Coronavirus patients into homes for the elderly.


@eladar said
MILAN—In the town of Coccaglio, an hour’s drive east of here, the local nursing home lost over a third of its residents in March. None of the 24 people who died there were tested for the new coronavirus. Nor were the 38 people who died in another nursing home in the nearby town of Lodi.

These aren’t isolated incidents. Italy’s official death toll from the virus stands at 13 ...[text shortened]... d from hospital but still positive for coronavirus to care homes is like priming "biological bombs".
And at the same time can be “A” typical.


@RBHILL

I do not understand what you mean.

Is it a typical case of how socialized societies can lower their cost be killing off their elderly? Italy certain seems to be doing just that.