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Was Hitler a Socialist?

Was Hitler a Socialist?

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@earl-of-trumps said
People in here bristle at the notion that Adolph Hitler was a socialist despite having led
the National Socialist German Workers' Party, aka, the Nazi Party, since 1921.

Ok, fine. Let's see if modern Neo-Nazi socialists do much different.

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-694960
By MICHAEL STARR Published: JANUARY 30, 2022 07:51
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Socialism is just way cool, eh dems?? Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus
🚨🚧Moronity of gop, and complete failure to understand anything historical or political alert!🚧🚨

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@earl-of-trumps said
Sorry Vivify, but you cannot have it both ways. Liberals (socialists, mostly) say a man who identifies as
a woman, is a woman! Gender identity. Well, if Hitler *IDENTIFIES* socialist, he is *in fact* a socialist.

That takes care of you :-)
Hitler did not identify as a socialist.
He identified as a national-socialist.

And I comprehend that this is way above your pay-grade, but they are actually complete opposites.

Think of it as:
Capitalist or anti-capitalist.
They’re not the same either.


@earl-of-trumps said
NKorea might be, No1, I'd have to look closely into it. Off hand, I'd say yes.
What??????????
You're joking right?
Thought you were sharper, Earl.


@no1marauder said
Then off hand, I'd say you're an idiot.
Stop being tautological.


@earl-of-trumps said
People in here bristle at the notion that Adolph Hitler was a socialist despite having led
the National Socialist German Workers' Party, aka, the Nazi Party, since 1921.

Ok, fine. Let's see if modern Neo-Nazi socialists do much different.

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-694960
By MICHAEL STARR Published: JANUARY 30, 2022 07:51
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Socialism is just way cool, eh dems?? Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus
Is North Korea a Republic?


@AThousandYoung
yes


People cling to the idea that the Nazi Party was right wing, yet somehow had the word "socialist" in their name.

This is like expecting me to believe that the Proud Boys would be just as happy being known as
the Proud Socialist Boys. πŸ™„
Sorry, It ain't cutting it.

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@earl-of-trumps said
@AThousandYoung
yes
So NK has the same government as USA then?

Must be why Trump the Republican was so chummy with Kim Jong Un.


@no1marauder said
You must be nutty to think people who call themselves "National Socialists" are actually followers of socialism.

But most right wingers don't have a clue as to what socialism is anyway. Here's a handy definition:

SOCIALISM: a social system in which the producers possess both political power and the means of producing and distributing goods.

http://www.spunk.org/l ...[text shortened]... oduction and distribution; in fact, large German capitalists fared quite well under the Nazi system.
Sorry to interrupt, I have poster-defended all day, but w all due respect, does this definition sort of leave a few things out? Does it not simply define capitalism? Speaking elementarily of course.


@averagejoe1 said
Sorry to interrupt, I have poster-defended all day, but w all due respect, does this definition sort of leave a few things out? Does it not simply define capitalism? Speaking elementarily of course.
No, the producers do not possess political power nor do they have the means of producing and/or distributing goods in a capitalist society.


@earl-of-trumps said
People cling to the idea that the Nazi Party was right wing, yet somehow had the word "socialist" in their name.

This is like expecting me to believe that the Proud Boys would be just as happy being known as
the Proud Socialist Boys. πŸ™„
Sorry, It ain't cutting it.
As I tried to explain;
NAZIS & SOCIALISTS are at
OPPOSITE ENDS of THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM
There are NO similarities-NONE, ZERO, NADA, ZILCH
Nazis are FASCISTS, as in ANTIFA,
one of your favorite buzzwords...
YOU'RE WRONG....When I'M WRONG, I apologize.
Stop making a fool of yourself
https://www.diffen.com/difference/Fascism_vs_Socialism?embed
https://opinionfront.com/socialism-vs-fascism
https://askanydifference.com/difference-between-socialism-and-fascism/


I'm not sure if we're allowed to give the history of the Nazi party because it might make white people feel bad but:

"After World War I ended, Germany experienced great political turmoil. The Treaty of Versailles (1919) imposed harsh terms on Germany, which had lost the war. In addition, the country saw the overthrow of its monarchy. In its place was the new Weimar Republic, a democratic government. Racist and antisemitic groups sprang up on the radical right. They blamed Jews for Germany’s defeat in the war. These groups opposed the Weimar Republic and the Treaty of Versailles. They were against democracy, human rights, capitalism, socialism, and communism. They advocated to exclude from German life anyone who did not belong to the German Volk or race.

In September 1919, Hitler attended a meeting of one of these groups in Munich, the German Workers’ Party. This small political organization sought to convert German workers away from Marxist Socialism. At the meeting, Hitler’s public speaking skills attracted notice. He was recruited to a leading role.

In 1920, Hitler changed the Party’s name to the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. “National Socialism” was a racist and antisemitic political theory. It had been developed in Hitler’s native Austria as the antithesis of Marxist Socialism and Communism. Marxists, for example, advocated for the global solidarity of the world’s workers. They called for the abolition of nation states. National Socialists, however, sought to unify members of the German Volk in complete obedience to the state. They called for a strong state to lead the “master race” in the “racial struggle” against “inferior races,” especially the Jews. "

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-nazi-party-1


@no1marauder said
I'm not sure if we're allowed to give the history of the Nazi party because it might make white people feel bad but:

"After World War I ended, Germany experienced great political turmoil. The Treaty of Versailles (1919) imposed harsh terms on Germany, which had lost the war. In addition, the country saw the overthrow of its monarchy. In its place was the new Weimar Rep ...[text shortened]... s,” especially the Jews. "[/b]

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-nazi-party-1
Excellent summary.....5 thumbs up


@athousandyoung said
So NK has the same government as USA then?

Must be why Trump the Republican was so chummy with Kim Jong Un.
Please, ATY. I'm feeling slippage down into the rabbit hole here.


@jimm619

That's all nice and everything, Jim, but it does nothing to explain why Hitler's chosen political party is socialist

a tad strange?? πŸ€”