This video from NBC's official YouTube channel details the car-bombing that killed the daughter of a pro-invasion Putin ally, who died in the blast.
One detail in particular: they were travelling together and at some point, for some reason switched cars. The bomb was detonated after the fact.
That's a little too convenient, isn't it? Russia gets to use a tragedy as propaganda against anyone who opposes the Ukrainian invasion, and gets to do so without losing a valuable Putin ally. Also, keep in mind that Russia previously faked an assassination attempt just a few months ago in April:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/88gpmg/russia-sims-3
It's already been proven Putin has no qualms killing dissidents and has Russia was already caught faking an assassination attempt. Could this death have been a set up to use as propaganda? Why would the father and daughter mysteriously stop driving their own cars and switch? Why, after driving a few miles, did the bomb detonate *after* the switch?
Thoughts?
@vivify saidTell me, MB Jr., why in the world would Putin kill one of his most prominent ultra-nationalist supporters?
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This video from NBC's official YouTube channel details the car-bombing that killed the daughter of a pro-invasion Putin ally, who died in the blast.
One detail in particular: they were travelling together and at some point, for some reason switched cars. The bomb was detonated after the fact.
That's a little too convenient, isn't i ...[text shortened]... and switch? Why, after driving a few miles, did the bomb detonate *after* the switch?
Thoughts?
According to this video from a German news channel, an obscure group called the "Nationalist Republican Army" has claimed responsibility:
Since I hate YouTubes and generally won't open them, here is an article from Yahoo news giving more details:
"Ilya Ponomarev, a former member of the State Duma of the Russian Federation (the Russian parliament), said that the so-called National Republican Army (NRA) has claimed responsibility for the murder of Darya Dugina, the daughter of "Putin’s ideologue" Aleksandr Dugin."
https://news.yahoo.com/darya-dugina-killed-partisans-national-185407641.html
He claimed the murder was justified because:
" Ponomarev said that Darya Dugina had called for the murder of Ukrainians and was one of the voices inciting violence and calling for murders in the occupied territories [of Ukraine]. Among other things, she had offered a justification for the killing of Ukrainian prisoners of war in the Olenivka prison camp."
@vivify saidMy thoughts are this: I could care-a-less about any pro-Putin supporter getting killed in this war. I'm more concerned about the tens of thousands of Ukrainians that have been murdered by Russian forces and bombs than some little Putin btch being killed in retaliation.
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This video from NBC's official YouTube channel details the car-bombing that killed the daughter of a pro-invasion Putin ally, who died in the blast.
One detail in particular: they were travelling together and at some point, for some reason switched cars. The bomb was detonated after the fact.
That's a little too convenient, isn't i ...[text shortened]... and switch? Why, after driving a few miles, did the bomb detonate *after* the switch?
Thoughts?
Either way, I agree more with your assessment here. Putin cares about no one but himself. Kind of like Trumpty poo. Most likely why they are such good friends.
@kingdavid403 saidWhile a rebellion against Putin's tyranny is surely morally justified, it is not permitted by the laws of war to kill civilians merely because of their political views. Nor is the murder justified because Russia invaded Ukraine; that does not grant groups carte blanche to kill any Russian who supports that unjustified Crime Against Peace.
My thoughts are this: I could care-a-less about any pro-Putin supporter getting killed in this war. I'm more concerned about the tens of thousands of Ukrainians that have been murdered by Russian forces and bombs than some little Putin btch being killed in retaliation.
Either way, I agree more with your assessment here. Putin cares about no one but himself. Kind of like Trumpty poo. Most likely why they are such good friends.
@no1marauder saidThat's just it: his supporter wasn't killed, the ally's daughter was. Do a better job reading the OP.
Tell me, MB Jr., why in the world would Putin kill one of his most prominent ultra-nationalist supporters?
@no1marauder saidThat's your opinion and you're welcome to it. My opinion is much different. War is war; and Putin and his supporters started it. As Jesus said: "I tell you the truth, you will reap what you sow."
While a rebellion against Putin's tyranny is surely morally justified, it is not permitted by the laws of war to kill civilians merely because of their political views. Nor is the murder justified because Russia invaded Ukraine; that does not grant groups carte blanche to kill any Russian who supports that unjustified Crime Against Peace.
@vivify saidI read it. She was an outspoken ultranationalist supporter of Putin who was a media commentator who had been placed under sanctions by the US and the UK:
That's just it: his supporter wasn't killed, the ally's daughter was. Do a better job reading the OP.
"Darya Dugina was herself a prominent journalist who vocally supported the invasion of Ukraine.
Earlier this year she was sanctioned by US and UK authorities, who accused her of contributing to online "disinformation" about Russia's invasion.
In May, she described the war as a "clash of civilisations" in an interview and expressed pride in the fact that both she and her father had been targeted by Western sanctions."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62621509
Maybe you should make more of an attempt to get the facts.
@kingdavid403 saidThere are rules in war.
That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. My opinion is much different. War is war; and Putin and his supporters started it. As Jesus said: "I tell you the truth, you will reap what you sow."
I doubt Jesus would have supported car bombings.
@no1marauder saidThere are rules in war.
There are rules in war.
I doubt Jesus would have supported car bombings.
Are the Russians sticking to the rules by bombing residential neighborhoods? Murdering prisoners of war? etc? There is a time for everything, and this is one of them. I've never seen any nation at war stick to any rules. I always find that hilarious when I hear that quote.
I doubt Jesus would have supported car bombings.
You may be right; however, I'll bet you that Jesus supported the flooding of the whole earth to kill almost everyone upon it, including women and children. I'll bet you Jesus supported the Israelites in their destruction of many of their enemies when taking the promised land, etc. In fact, God ordered it; and cursed them when they showed any mercy to some of these people (mostly the beautiful women and some of their prime livestock) etc.
@no1marauder saidThe daughter is only famous because of the father, who is the actual Putin ally. She plays the same role Don Jr. does.
Since I hate YouTubes and generally won't open them, here is an article from Yahoo news giving more details:
"Ilya Ponomarev, a former member of the State Duma of the Russian Federation (the Russian parliament), said that the so-called National Republican Army (NRA) has claimed responsibility for the murder of Darya Dugina, the daughter of "Putin’s ideologue" Aleksandr ...[text shortened]... offered a justification for the killing of Ukrainian prisoners of war in the Olenivka prison camp."
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/21/world/ukraine-russia-news-war
NYT says attacks against pro-Kremlin figures are "rare". And that's for good reason: attacking a Putin ally is the last thing anyone would want to do given how people are murdered merely for criticizing Putin. Journalists are jailed merely for expressing opposition to the invasion. Brittney Griner is spending 9 years in a forced-labor camp just for bringing a few ounces of cannabis oil. So imagine the punishment for car-bombing a Putin ally.
Given Russia tried to pull a fake assassination attempt earlier this year and that the bomb wasn't detonated until *after* the cars were switched (for some reason), this just seems off. This is in addition to Putin being a notorious murderer, and his long history of false-flag attacks, like the one used to start the Ukrainian invasion.
To be clear, I'm not alleging a conspiracy actually happened, I'm just putting forward some thoughts.
One of the things about this murder was that the actual killing was a bit of an overkill in itself.
They could have just killed her by other means.
But a car bomb makes a big splash on the media.
I would think that the Ukraines would be the least likely of suspects to make this kind of a splash.
@kingdavid403 saidI'm not a Christian and I certainly don't believe that Holy Trinity nonsense. So if you can find any quotes from Jesus supporting murders of this sort in the New Testament, I'd love to see them.
There are rules in war.
Are the Russians sticking to the rules by bombing residential neighborhoods? Murdering prisoners of war? etc? There is a time for everything, and this is one of them. I've never seen any nation at war stick to any rules. I always find that hilarious when I hear that quote.
I doubt Jesus would have supported car bombings.
You ...[text shortened]... y mercy to some of these people (mostly the beautiful women and some of their prime livestock) etc.
You surely know that one side committing war crimes doesn't justify the other side doing so. At any rate, it does not appear the Ukraine was involved.