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Watch out! Debt collectors!

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Ernestine Williams, a 55-year-old widow in Morristown, New Jersey, walked into her bank over the summer to make a deposit, only to learn that her account had been frozen at the request of a company that purchased her delinquent Pep Boys repair bill.

The company is demanding $2,135 immediately to unfreeze her account -- an amount that includes about $400 in fees and interest on top of her original debt. Williams said she has had financial problems since her husband died and needs more time to pay.

"It's ludicrous," Williams said. "I'm trying to get back on my feet so I can pay my bills. It's embarrassing. I've already pawned all my jewelry. I don't have anything."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/30/debt.collectors.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

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Originally posted by jlilly
Ernestine Williams, a 55-year-old widow in Morristown, New Jersey, walked into her bank over the summer to make a deposit, only to learn that her account had been frozen at the request of a company that purchased her delinquent Pep Boys repair bill.

The company is demanding $2,135 immediately to unfreeze her account -- an amount that includes about $400 in ng."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/30/debt.collectors.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
I guess in the hamburger universe you inhabit, creditors should just eat your debt? What is your point?

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What is she to do? She sold everything she had. Did you ever wonder why she might have needed credit? Because she couldn't afford everything on her own. Now she's worse off because of the system.

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What is your point? Even in countries with huge social welfare systems there are people who get into large debt.

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Originally posted by jlilly
What is she to do? She sold everything she had. Did you ever wonder why she might have needed credit? Because she couldn't afford everything on her own. Now she's worse off because of the system.
What she should do is get a group of friends together, find out where the debt collector and his collegues work and live, go around to the debt collectors offices and torch them and finally move on to their houses to slaughter their families.

A strong message is one best served harshly.

That money doesn't exist. And if the US government can bail out banks for their mismanagement, they should be bailing her out too. Which they're not, so it's time to take matters into her own hands.

Burn the bastards. Burn them.

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Originally posted by jlilly
Ernestine Williams, a 55-year-old widow in Morristown, New Jersey, walked into her bank over the summer to make a deposit, only to learn that her account had been frozen at the request of a company that purchased her delinquent Pep Boys repair bill.

The company is demanding $2,135 immediately to unfreeze her account -- an amount that includes about $400 in ...[text shortened]... ng."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/30/debt.collectors.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
Not a new problem...

From Shakespeare's Hamlet, 1603:

LORD POLONIUS:

"Neither a borrower nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry."

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Whatever happened to living within your means?
If I can't afford something, I don't buy it. You know what? I have no debt! Wow!

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Originally posted by jlilly
What is she to do? She sold everything she had. Did you ever wonder why she might have needed credit? Because she couldn't afford everything on her own. Now she's worse off because of the system.
Whoooo...because she sold everything, (supposedly) had no money, she deserved credit?? And because she used that credit, and even though she had money in a bank, but did not pay back the money she borrowed, she should get the money that she had in the bank, as well as not have to pay back the credit?? OH, now I get it! NOT!!

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Originally posted by Crowley
Whatever happened to living within your means?
If I can't afford something, I don't buy it. You know what? I have no debt! Wow!
You rich fat cat. Move to America and Jlilly, #0, and Barry O will take your money and spread it around so the poor can pay off the debt on their new flat screen.

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Originally posted by jlilly
Ernestine Williams, a 55-year-old widow in Morristown, New Jersey, walked into her bank over the summer to make a deposit, only to learn that her account had been frozen at the request of a company that purchased her delinquent Pep Boys repair bill.

The company is demanding $2,135 immediately to unfreeze her account -- an amount that includes about $400 in ng."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/30/debt.collectors.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
I question that story anyway. I've worked for 4 banks and a collection agency cannot freeze your account. Only the federal government can do that, so I don't see how a "debt collector" would be able to freeze her account. There must be more to it than that, but i would not expect Jlilly to seek out the truth.

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Originally posted by NimzovichLarsen
I question that story anyway. I've worked for 4 banks and a collection agency cannot freeze your account. Only the federal government can do that, so I don't see how a "debt collector" would be able to freeze her account. There must be more to it than that, but i would not expect Jlilly to seek out the truth.
Yeah I wondered about that too. The article Jilly linked says they have to go to court to do it. So really it was a judge who did it.

"U.S. law allows creditors to take aggressive steps to collect a debt, including going to court to freeze a debtor's bank accounts."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/30/debt.collectors.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Edit: I guess that means Shav gets to burn down the judge's house.

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Originally posted by NimzovichLarsen
I question that story anyway. I've worked for 4 banks and a collection agency cannot freeze your account. Only the federal government can do that, so I don't see how a "debt collector" would be able to freeze her account. There must be more to it than that...
Agreed......also, the problem should not be pushed on the debt collectors. Debt collectors from banks call people every day offering discussion about their situation to work out something....there are plans, and the bank can do a lot.....but somebody only shutting down all communication attempts finally will not see any help but things to get worse....

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Originally posted by shavixmir
What she should do is get a group of friends together, find out where the debt collector and his collegues work and live, go around to the debt collectors offices and torch them and finally move on to their houses to slaughter their families.

A strong message is one best served harshly.

That money doesn't exist. And if the US government can bail out ...[text shortened]... ey're not, so it's time to take matters into her own hands.

Burn the bastards. Burn them.
*rolls eyes*

Poor shavixmir -- one of the most important rules to live by is: Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's possessions. You've spent so much time alone, brooding in your federally-subsidized apartment that you've gone crazy lusting after what you don't have. Now you think the only solution is to kill "the haves." How 20th century.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
What she should do is get a group of friends together, find out where the debt collector and his collegues work and live, go around to the debt collectors offices and torch them and finally move on to their houses to slaughter their families.

A strong message is one best served harshly.

That money doesn't exist. And if the US government can bail out ...[text shortened]... ey're not, so it's time to take matters into her own hands.

Burn the bastards. Burn them.
They tried that on us. Good thing we had riflemen on the roof.

Except we weren't the creditors...they just kinda burned...everything....