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Welfare for Illegals: Costs US $16.2B

Welfare for Illegals: Costs US $16.2B

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@spruce112358 said
Correct, and 80% of migrants are economic and are eventually deported. But the process is slow because the courts are clogged.

We need bigger court capacity and Trump refused to build that. 😆
I do wonder why he does not act in such ways to simply make it 'how it ought to be'. That is, to not allow illegal happenings of any nature, including trespass over the Rio Grande. Surely he thinks that, just as does any sovereign citizen. So is it that the liberal influences, such as Democrats in congress, impede any progress in that regard?
When AvJoe says 'how it ought to be', he means legally. A lib reading that would chide me and say..."NO,Joe, how it ought to be is the way that we libs want it to be." Repubs are not like that. We recognize authority and the law. My fool lib cousin has a bumper sticker, that says "Question Authority". Is HE the problem?


@Mott-The-Hoople said
"We need bigger court capacity "

not what our laws state
Yes, we do because once they are on American soil - no matter the reason - they are governed by American law. American law says they get a hearing to determine 'why are you here?'

Change that law. Trump won't. 😆


@AverageJoe1 said
We recognize authority and the law.
No you don't. You repeatedly state that you can VIOLATE the law IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT! 😆

Un-American criminal. 😆


@spruce112358 said
No you don't. You repeatedly state that you can VIOLATE the law IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT! 😆

Un-American criminal. 😆
who says that?


@AverageJoe1 said
who says that?
Un-American criminals. 😆


@spruce112358 said
Yes, we do because once they are on American soil - no matter the reason - they are governed by American law. American law says they get a hearing to determine 'why are you here?'

Change that law. Trump won't. 😆
American law gives the president the right to executive orders and policy


@Mott-The-Hoople said
American law gives the president the right to executive orders and policy
'Executive' means 'executes laws passed by Congress.' So the President may ONLY do things Congress has authorized or which are specifically stated out in the Constitution. 😆

So if Congress passes a law saying, "The President may close the border whenever he feels like it," then the President may do so.

Until then (barring national emergencies where Congress has carved out an exception), persons crossing the border must be processed to determine if they qualify for asylum. (And no, volume of migrants by itself does not constitute an emergency - per the courts.)

That's the law and no President, by himself, can change it. 😆


@spruce112358 said
'Executive' means 'executes laws passed by Congress.' So the President may ONLY do things Congress has authorized or which are specifically stated out in the Constitution. 😆

So if Congress passes a law saying, "The President may close the border whenever he feels like it," then the President may do so.

Until then (barring national emergencies where Congress has car ...[text shortened]... te an emergency - per the courts.)

That's the law and no President, by himself, can change it. 😆
obama and biden both changed the assylum procedure thru executive orders

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@spruce112358 said
$1,827 billion (Medicare/Medicaid - I subtracted the 16B). 😆
$1,827 billion for americans on welfare and you're worried about $16 billion for illegals on welfare?

That's 0.8% of the total amount spent on welfare.

I would have thought you'd be more concerned with the americans on welfare who eat up 99.2% of the welfare money from taxpayers!


@uzless said
$1,827 billion for americans on welfare and you're worried about $16 billion for illegals on welfare?

That's 0.8% of the total amount spent on welfare.

I would have thought you'd be more concerned with the americans on welfare who eat up 99.2% of the welfare money from taxpayers!
I'm not worried about 0.8% but @AverageJoe1 and Trump want to deport 20 million people over it! 😆

Instead of letting them work for a living.


@AverageJoe1

How much profit to the medical insurance companies make per year?


@uzless said
$1,827 billion for americans on welfare and you're worried about $16 billion for illegals on welfare?

That's 0.8% of the total amount spent on welfare.

I would have thought you'd be more concerned with the americans on welfare who eat up 99.2% of the welfare money from taxpayers!
Uz says just support illegals. Maybe he is of the School of Shav, who says that there is no such thing as an illegal person

Why write.Uz.


@Sprogladog said
@AverageJoe1

How much profit to the medical insurance companies make per year?
The amount allowed by law. My daughter sells a cup of lemonade for $20.00. Allowed by law.
What is your point?!

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@spruce112358 said
Republicans don't want to solve the problem. I mean they literally, actively DO NOT want to solve the problem because they fear that 20 years from now, these people will vote Democrat. So they are frantic to deport them.
Republicans also don't want to solve the problem because they thrive on fear itself as a political weapon, no matter the cost to others or society. They are the most afeared "people" on the planet. A daisy flower opening its petals on a sunny spring morning is like a jackal jumping out of a jack-in-the-box to them. Run for the guns! Mama save me!

Best stay in the basement, that lot.

Frankly $16.2 billion is much, much less than I would have expected. A bargain, really, for an army of hard workers that do the things rednecks won't waddle out of the trailer to do themselves even for a bucket of pork rinds and an "Essence of Trump Ass" vape pen. Too busy watching Faux Nooz, y'know.


@AverageJoe1 said
Uz says just support illegals. Maybe he is of the School of Shav, who says that there is no such thing as an illegal person

Why write.Uz.
I did NOT say support illegals. I just pointed out focusing on 0.8% of the problem seems ludicrous.