Originally posted by normbenign
That would depend on the country in which the English is spoken, and in the USA even the region or State would make a difference.
How would either of us collect on such a bet?
I can picture a cop in NYC, or New Orleans questioning a suspect: "Whom did you shoot?" and everyone in the room hysterical with laughter. Grammar in English is generally alte ...[text shortened]... s like "shew", or "doth" which showed up regularly in 17th and 18th century writings and speech.
With his usual dishonesty, Normbenign desperately attempts to cover up the fact that he's dead wrong.
Not even Sh76 himself has attempted to argue that my grammatical correction was mistaken.
In Sh76's sentence, the formal grammatical distinction between 'who' and 'whom' does
*not* 'depend upon the country in which the English is spoken'. Given that Sh76's an
American, I assumed that the context here is *standard American English in writing*.
Now I suppose that Normbenign could find some grammatically ignorant Americans
(like himself) who might say, 'Who did you shoot?' in *casual speech*, but that's
*irrelevant* to its grammatical incorrectness in *formal writing*. Contrary to what
Normbenign (who's nearly illiterate) desperately wants to believe, grammatical questions
are not settled by asking the 'lowest common denominator' of English speakers.
Is Normbenign disappointed that none of his fellow right-wing white Americans (who may
hate me almost as much he does) have hastened to offer to bet their life savings upon
the proposition that he must be right and I must be wrong on a question of English grammar?