Originally posted by sanjeewaWell, this is a joke problem, and it should be treated that way.
This has been the age old debate between philosophers and no matter what the poor scientists say , the debate will rage on. Its simply one of those things that you will never agree upon.
But if you think about it, laterally, you already know the answer, don't you? Put the same question into an alternate wordings, and the answer is simple:
When did the first egg came into existance in the universe. Any egg.
When did the first chicken came into existance in the universe. Any chicken.
Now you can answer the question easily: What came first?
Originally posted by sanjeewaIt isn't a question for philosophers. Even less so for theologians. It's a question for scientists.
This has been the age old debate between philosophers and no matter what the poor scientists say , the debate will rage on. Its simply one of those things that you will never agree upon.
Originally posted by FMFI agree with Fabian the answer is easy.
It isn't a question for philosophers. Even less so for theologians. It's a question for scientists.
To be a chicken it MUST have come from an egg.
To be an egg it does not necessarily have to come from a chicken.
Now if the question was
"What came first the chicken or the chicken-egg?" then we have a problem ..........
Originally posted by wolfgang59The answer is that it is undefined. Certain category words are not strictly defined and have grey edges. Species names are like that. As one species evolves into another there is not always a definite point at which one generation is a member of the first species and the second is not. If the species change is due to one gene change then it may happen that way, but more often than not multiple genes are involved.
Now if the question was
"What came first the chicken or the chicken-egg?" then we have a problem ..........
Another example of grey edges is a hill and a valley. One may ask at what point when walking from the valley floor to the top of the hill have you left the valley and are now on the hill, or whether you are ever both on the hill and in the valley.
So to ask whether my right foot or left foot was on the hill first is simply undefined.
Originally posted by wolfgang59The chicken egg has to come out of a chicken, but the chicken could have come out of the egg which came out of the pre-chicken.
I agree with Fabian the answer is easy.
To be a chicken it MUST have come from an egg.
To be an egg it does not necessarily have to come from a chicken.
Now if the question was
"What came first the chicken or the chicken-egg?" then we have a problem ..........
Hence, the correct order is:
Egg
Chicken
Chicken egg
Republican
Sorry. That last one was a quip. Highly amusing, I'm sure you'll agree.
Originally posted by shavixmirvery amusing indeed.
The chicken egg has to come out of a chicken, but the chicken could have come out of the egg which came out of the pre-chicken.
Hence, the correct order is:
Egg
Chicken
Chicken egg
Republican
Sorry. That last one was a quip. Highly amusing, I'm sure you'll agree.
Originally posted by shavixmirWho says anything about an chicken egg in the original question? Why not a fish egg?
The chicken egg has to come out of a chicken, but the chicken could have come out of the egg which came out of the pre-chicken.
Hence, the correct order is:
Egg
Chicken
Chicken egg
Republican
Sorry. That last one was a quip. Highly amusing, I'm sure you'll agree.
Originally posted by shavixmirThe original question was "What Came First, the Chicken or the Egg?".
The chicken egg wasn't mentioned in the original post.
You are very sharp.
However, it was mentioned in a later post.
Sherlock you are not yet...
The method is: When you cannot answer the original question, then answer another one, and voilà, you are right after all!
So what came first, the chicken or the egg?
The answer is 1066.
On what question?
When was the battle of Hastings?
Then you're right.
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Originally posted by shavixmiranything that exists before the chikin(near-chikins) have eggs that produce nearer-chikins.
The chicken egg has to come out of a chicken, but the chicken could have come out of the egg which came out of the pre-chicken.
Hence, the correct order is:
Egg
Chicken
Chicken egg
Republican
Sorry. That last one was a quip. Highly amusing, I'm sure you'll agree.
when nearest-chikin and nearest-cock have sex they produce an egg with the first exactly-chikin. and because the egg is of the variety of its contents, just as a crate containing apples is an apple crate => the egg of the nearest-chikin and nearest-cock is a chikin egg.
=> the chikin egg came before the chikin.
evolution!