Originally posted by apathistaccording to this: https://www.cnpp.usda.gov/sites/default/files/usda_food_plans_cost_of_food/CostofFoodJul2014.pdf
rent600
util100
food200
tran100
insu150
ente100
totl1250
western usa
spartan and stoic
so ($750/mo / 30) = $25/day profit!
a single adult needs 205$ a week for the "thrifty" plan. in 2014. it's been 3 years since then. Do you think "thrifty" is an assuring term for someone working a highly physical demanding job?
insu i assume means healthcare. you wrote 150.
https://resources.ehealthinsurance.com/affordable-care-act/much-health-insurance-cost-without-subsidy
says they average 239 for people aged 25-34. also one needs to look into what "catastrophic plans" mean (the cheapest) and what the rest mean. If the catastrophic plan only covers "space AIDS" it's practically useless.
what is ente? do you think maybe you could write complete words? it's not such a lengthy post, i am sure you could spare the time.
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Originally posted by ZahlanziI do like the subject and I was pointing out an obvious flaw in your basic argument. You don't seem to like it as it is upsetting you and you don't want to discuss the implications.
oh for fuk's sake. if you don't like the subject why are you in this thread.
If you don't like the subject why are you in this thread?
In case you still haven't got it, you are asking people how someone on minimum wage in america could survive, when the vast majority of the world lives on about a tenth of that and survives. You don't seem to care about the rest of the world or what should be done about them. Thus any moral argument you might be making is morally bankrupt from the get go.
Originally posted by twhiteheadCost of living is relative. Prices are set by demand. Try to rent a place charging $600 per month when no one makes more than $50 a month?
I do like the subject and I was pointing out an obvious flaw in your basic argument. You don't seem to like it as it is upsetting you and you don't want to discuss the implications.
If you don't like the subject why are you in this thread?
In case you still haven't got it, you are asking people how someone on minimum wage in america could survive, whe ...[text shortened]... one about them. Thus any moral argument you might be making is morally bankrupt from the get go.
As people make more money, prices go up accordingly.
Originally posted by twhiteheadthis
I do like the subject and I was pointing out an obvious flaw in your basic argument. You don't seem to like it as it is upsetting you and you don't want to discuss the implications.
If you don't like the subject why are you in this thread?
In case you still haven't got it, you are asking people how someone on minimum wage in america could survive, whe ...[text shortened]... one about them. Thus any moral argument you might be making is morally bankrupt from the get go.
is
about
the
US
minimum
wage.
do you want to make a budget based on the US minimum wage and on living in the US?
Originally posted by ZahlanziYou've already admitted it's an unnecessary point, given that such a small percentage of people are actually being paid minimum wage.
this
is
about
the
US
minimum
wage.
do you want to make a budget based on the US minimum wage and on living in the US?
It's really arbitrary, don't you think?
Could a person drive a car from Boston to Seattle traveling no greater than 25 MPH?
Yes.
Yes, they could.
Perhaps even someone has done it.
But it's not really necessary, is it?
The overwhelming majority of speed limits between those two cities is far in excess of 25 MPH.
What's the point?
Originally posted by ZahlanziDoing this without accounting for all of the government benefits Bob is eligible for is a pointless exercise.
I don't think anyone (especially those yelling that minimum wage is a socialist abomination that should be set to 0) has actually made a budget for that amount.
So let's play "Survive on minimum wage".
With 8$/h and assuming a 15% tax you earn 7$ an hour (6.8).
Working for 48hours a week that means 7x48x4=1344.
Let's make it a round 1400$
Pleas ...[text shortened]... ugh money saved to immediately get another apartment? If he gets sick, how bankrupt will he get?
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Originally posted by sh76What sh76 is trying to say is "I refuse to admit this minimum wage is appallingly low, and I'll be able to get out of admitting it by using using government benefits as an escape hatch"
Doing this without accounting for all of the government benefits Bob is eligible for is a pointless exercise.
sh76 - You're a smart guy, your "slippery" language strongly suggests you should have been in politics! 😛
Originally posted by mchillYou're like one of those guys in the locker room who thinks it funny to snap an unsuspecting team mate with a towel.
What sh76 is trying to say is "I refuse to admit this minimum wage is appallingly low, and I'll be able to get out of admitting it by using using government benefits as an escape hatch"
sh76 - You're a smart guy, your "slippery" language strongly suggests you should have been in politics! 😛
He arms himself, dips the corner of the towel in piss water, begins the circular motion and waits to crack it like a bull whip on the bare skin of his prey at just the right moment... but in his excitement to land the offending cloth in just the exact spot, he double-clutches and the darted corner whips back at him, snapping him directly in his under-developed nut sack.
You were so tantalizingly close to landing that one, too!
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Originally posted by sh76account for them then.
Doing this without accounting for all of the government benefits Bob is eligible for is a pointless exercise.
also, weren't you among those that say those government benefits should be scrapped as well? that they enable "moochers"?