What does minimum wage get you?

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As I said, most people have much better than minimum wage jobs.

Perhaps the jibs market in Europe are so bad that everyone there gets minimum wage and lives off public assistance.

Originally posted by apathist
rent 600
util 100
food 200
tran 100
insu 150

ente 100

totl 1250

western usa
spartan and stoic

so ($750/mo / 30) = $25/day profit!

according to this: https://www.cnpp.usda.gov/sites/default/files/usda_food_plans_cost_of_food/CostofFoodJul2014.pdf

a single adult needs 205$ a week for the "thrifty" plan. in 2014. it's been 3 years since then. Do you think "thrifty" is an assuring term for someone working a highly physical demanding job?

insu i assume means healthcare. you wrote 150.

https://resources.ehealthinsurance.com/affordable-care-act/much-health-insurance-cost-without-subsidy
says they average 239 for people aged 25-34. also one needs to look into what "catastrophic plans" mean (the cheapest) and what the rest mean. If the catastrophic plan only covers "space AIDS" it's practically useless.


what is ente? do you think maybe you could write complete words? it's not such a lengthy post, i am sure you could spare the time.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
oh for fuk's sake. if you don't like the subject why are you in this thread.

I do like the subject and I was pointing out an obvious flaw in your basic argument. You don't seem to like it as it is upsetting you and you don't want to discuss the implications.
If you don't like the subject why are you in this thread?

In case you still haven't got it, you are asking people how someone on minimum wage in america could survive, when the vast majority of the world lives on about a tenth of that and survives. You don't seem to care about the rest of the world or what should be done about them. Thus any moral argument you might be making is morally bankrupt from the get go.

Originally posted by twhitehead
I do like the subject and I was pointing out an obvious flaw in your basic argument. You don't seem to like it as it is upsetting you and you don't want to discuss the implications.
If you don't like the subject why are you in this thread?

In case you still haven't got it, you are asking people how someone on minimum wage in america could survive, whe ...[text shortened]... one about them. Thus any moral argument you might be making is morally bankrupt from the get go.

Cost of living is relative. Prices are set by demand. Try to rent a place charging $600 per month when no one makes more than $50 a month?

As people make more money, prices go up accordingly.

Originally posted by twhitehead
I do like the subject and I was pointing out an obvious flaw in your basic argument. You don't seem to like it as it is upsetting you and you don't want to discuss the implications.
If you don't like the subject why are you in this thread?

In case you still haven't got it, you are asking people how someone on minimum wage in america could survive, whe ...[text shortened]... one about them. Thus any moral argument you might be making is morally bankrupt from the get go.

this
is
about
the
US
minimum
wage.

do you want to make a budget based on the US minimum wage and on living in the US?

I don't have internet at home and use the one on this phone or at the library.

Phone is needed but low income people get deeply discounted phones and service. In California they give out free phones with unlimited talk and text free.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
this
is
about
the
US
minimum
wage.

do you want to make a budget based on the US minimum wage and on living in the US?

You've already admitted it's an unnecessary point, given that such a small percentage of people are actually being paid minimum wage.
It's really arbitrary, don't you think?

Could a person drive a car from Boston to Seattle traveling no greater than 25 MPH?
Yes.
Yes, they could.
Perhaps even someone has done it.
But it's not really necessary, is it?
The overwhelming majority of speed limits between those two cities is far in excess of 25 MPH.
What's the point?

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
I don't think anyone (especially those yelling that minimum wage is a socialist abomination that should be set to 0) has actually made a budget for that amount.

So let's play "Survive on minimum wage".
With 8$/h and assuming a 15% tax you earn 7$ an hour (6.8).
Working for 48hours a week that means 7x48x4=1344.
Let's make it a round 1400$


Pleas ...[text shortened]... ugh money saved to immediately get another apartment? If he gets sick, how bankrupt will he get?

Doing this without accounting for all of the government benefits Bob is eligible for is a pointless exercise.

Originally posted by sh76
Doing this without accounting for all of the government benefits Bob is eligible for is a pointless exercise.

What sh76 is trying to say is "I refuse to admit this minimum wage is appallingly low, and I'll be able to get out of admitting it by using using government benefits as an escape hatch"

sh76 - You're a smart guy, your "slippery" language strongly suggests you should have been in politics! 😛

Originally posted by mchill
What sh76 is trying to say is "I refuse to admit this minimum wage is appallingly low, and I'll be able to get out of admitting it by using using government benefits as an escape hatch"

sh76 - You're a smart guy, your "slippery" language strongly suggests you should have been in politics! 😛

You're like one of those guys in the locker room who thinks it funny to snap an unsuspecting team mate with a towel.
He arms himself, dips the corner of the towel in piss water, begins the circular motion and waits to crack it like a bull whip on the bare skin of his prey at just the right moment... but in his excitement to land the offending cloth in just the exact spot, he double-clutches and the darted corner whips back at him, snapping him directly in his under-developed nut sack.

You were so tantalizingly close to landing that one, too!

Originally posted by sh76
Doing this without accounting for all of the government benefits Bob is eligible for is a pointless exercise.

account for them then.
also, weren't you among those that say those government benefits should be scrapped as well? that they enable "moochers"?

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
account for them then.
also, weren't you among those that say those government benefits should be scrapped as well? that they enable "moochers"?

Seems to be working in Maine.