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When looking into the news all one see is devastating terror, war (both real war and economical war, misunderstandings and spreading hatred.

Unless we are all about to immitate neutral Switzerland there is need for a worldwide change of idea´s.

But governments are just like kids. Unless there is a certain event nobody would change whatsoever just to squeeze as long as you could.

What are possible causes (perhaps more than the WWIII scenario) which could possibly result in a worldwide change of idea´s leading to more peace and understanding and a relaxation in today´s deeply stressed relations between all states.

Please discuss.

Thank you for your attention and please refrain from flame and spam wars.

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The end of all totalitarian governments, free democratic elelections, only then will there be world peace.

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Originally posted by breedluv
The end of all totalitarian governments, free democratic elelections, only then will there be world peace.
Quote from the patriot:
"An elected legislature can trample a man's rights just as easily as a
King (fill in Dictator) can."

Furthermore there is a certain amount of free democratic states (are there really ?) which still feud amongst each other.

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Originally posted by Rochade
When looking into the news all one see is devastating terror, war (both real war and economical war, misunderstandings and spreading hatred.

Unless we are all about to immitate neutral Switzerland there is need for a worldwide change of idea´s.

But governments are just like kids. Unless there is a certain event nobody would change whatsoever just to ...[text shortened]...

Please discuss.

Thank you for your attention and please refrain from flame and spam wars.
Actually, I think it's going to take something pretty major and bad for governments to start getting along together. One of the biggest problems with democratically elected government is that a government only thinks as far as the next election. If that wasn't the case Kyoto would be ratified extremely quickly by the US government, because since the man in the US street enjoys the highest standard of life on the planet, the US has the most to lose from climate change. Say what you will about dictators, but at least they've got long term vision! As long as governments are only thinking up until the next elections many of the worlds problems are going to esculate until something major, like a climatic shift, New York goes under water or similar happens.

My bet - climate change.

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Can anyone name 2 democratic states that are at war with each other?

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Originally posted by breedluv
Can anyone name 2 democratic states that are at war with each other?
I stand corrected.
When talking about open war not (unless anywhere in africa). But there are several incidents all over the world which are solved with military threat or power (india and pakistan, north korea and south korea (or the us) this line would never end.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
Actually, I think it's going to take something pretty major and bad for governments to start getting along together. One of the biggest problems with democratically elected government is that a government only thinks as far as the next election. If that wasn't the case Kyoto would be ratified extremely quickly by the US government, because since the m ...[text shortened]... e a climatic shift, New York goes under water or similar happens.

My bet - climate change.
Thats a good one !
The short sight of the governments is IMO too one of the biggest problems. We had faced it several times in our (Germany) political history after the war. Instead of doing the necessery even if it is unpopular and to take responsibility for the following generations they just make more and more debts and act like there is no tomorrow.

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Originally posted by Rochade
Thats a good one !
The short sight of the governments is IMO too one of the biggest problems. We had faced it several times in our (Germany) political history after the war. Instead of doing the necessery even if it is unpopular and to take responsibility for the following generations they just make more and more debts and act like there is no tomorrow.
My bet: when we finally run out of oil. Way before that happens,
we will be forced to go on to either crops which return deisel fuel
directly, like the Jojoba desert plant or BIGTIME solar and using that
and maybe photosythic based conversion to hydrogen or going
full blast back to the nuclear economy. Maybe by the time the
shortage of oil gets to be a real world wide problem the fusion
projects will finally mature and actually generate all that radioisotope
free energy they have been spouting about for the last 50 years (the
project that always produces energy 20 years from whatever present
you happen to be in) When we run out of oil, the middle east runs
out of clout and will be abandoned at the first opportunity.
Right now, the US sucks up to Saudi Arabia like its a real country
and all the time 99 percent of that population hates the US.
And that from a supposed ally. Those places run out of oil and
Alaska and the North Shore and Russia runs out, there will be
a sea change. What we see right now with gas 3 bucks a gallon and
more is just the barest beginning. My fear is when supplies start
to seriously run low, wars will start over the scraps left over like
vultures fighting over a carcass.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
My bet: when we finally run out of oil. Way before that happens,
we will be forced to go on to either crops which return deisel fuel
directly, like the Jojoba desert plant or BIGTIME solar and using that
and maybe photosythic based conversion to hydrogen or going
full blast back to the nuclear economy. Maybe by the time the
shortage of oil gets to be ...[text shortened]... usly run low, wars will start over the scraps left over like
vultures fighting over a carcass.
Here in Germany (we are World Champs when it is up to save the environment you know we even divide our garbage !) there was this really long period where people talk about a 3 litre car (3 litre per 100 km approx. 0,6599 gal. per 62,14 miles) and all car building companies said not possible. Look there Greenpeace came up with a car like that and whoops a half a year later the first three litre car goes in serial production. What a surprise.

Imagine you have the plans for the solution of the oil problem and are about to let loose your plans. Suddenly a group of lawyers join up and offer you 20 Million USD just for handing over the plans and forget about your ideas. Thats more than great companies will give you or you could earn on the copyrights for that product. What would you do ?

Seriously I bet there will be war on the latest drops of oil but the economy have to start thinking afront to be prepared.

Serious Problem no. one: Political parties act up to the next polls.
Serious Problem no. two: Climate shift
Serious Problem no. three: Oil shortage/War on oil

Okay lets go on. Nice discussion.

How about your opinions on overpopulation or hunger in the south world and their rise against the north world ?

Keep it up.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
I would say, if governments mandated that their world leaders receive oral sex. For example, Congress would issue a law stating that "Laura Bush must put some lipstick on Georgie's dipstick three times a week, or more often if necessary, to prevent George from invading countries that did not attack the U.S."

Look at Slick Willy. Got blowjobs from a 21-year-old intern, happy as a clam, never invaded anybody.
Seriously I can´t deny that men (including me) are way more nice and behave way more relaxed when they receive shags and oral s@x on a regularly basis.
But I hardly believe that it is the solution for the world problem but it would be nice though to have a law on that and I would directly hand in my candidateship as president for every state who allows me to do so. GGG

Who the H@ll is slick willy anyway ? And that they invade nobody ? Nah keep your thoughts clean bad boy LOL !

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Originally posted by Rochade
I stand corrected.
When talking about open war not (unless anywhere in africa). But there are several incidents all over the world which are solved with military threat or power (india and pakistan, north korea and south korea (or the us) this line would never end.
(India=democrocy / Pakistan=dictatorship) (North Korea= communist dictator / south korea= democrocy) A representitive gorvernment would never be allowed by the people who vote them into power to become so aggressive towards another demecrative state that it would come to armed conflict. Look back thur history, it has never happened and most likely never will.

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Originally posted by breedluv
(India=democrocy / Pakistan=dictatorship) (North Korea= communist dictator / south korea= democrocy) A representitive gorvernment would never be allowed by the people who vote them into power to become so aggressive towards another demecrative state that it would come to armed conflict. Look back thur history, it has never happened and most likely never will.
Except for Adolf Hitler and the Nazi's. Oh, and Mussolini.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
Except for Adolf Hitler and the Nazi's. Oh, and Mussolini.
Dont be so thick, hitler? dictator, mussolini dictator

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Originally posted by breedluv
Dont be so thick, hitler? dictator, mussolini dictator
And both of them elected into power, by a majority of the citizens in their respective countries. They only became dictators when they changed the law, which, of course, they did through the proper legal channels (okay Hitler intimidated MPs to vote for him, but he still got the vote).