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@averagejoe1 saidHoly moly now you're writing about promoting a socialist form of government in which food production is controlled by and paid for by the government? That's wacko.
This problem, very convoluted, causing many arguments and lobbying on the Hill, is not one that I could hardly take a side on.
I can only speak to your comment, that surely the legislators are more concerned with the food supply, and the balancing thereof, than they are with how much money a man makes. 🤔 I think 🤔......
If they are warring about the food supply ...[text shortened]... off, I would go for being poor and free than be a govt dependent. Oops, I have veered off-subject.
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@mchill saidYeah buddy,
When we give out billions to farmers, it's called "being fair" 🙂
When we give out billions to banks, it's called "good for the economy" 🙂
When we give out billions in grants, subsidies, and other corporate welfare goodies, to the fortune 500 it's called "Good for America" 🙂
When we give out $$ to the poor, the sick, and underprivileged, it's called "Socialism" ðŸ˜
You know it's only called Socialism when it helps people,
not corporations.......No doubt about it,
we got the best government that money can buy...
Didn't they used to call that 'pay for play' bribery?
Nowdays it's called campaign contributions.
I really got a kick when, during the endless debate on 'OBAMA CARE',
The Republicans railed on about the evils of FEDERAL HEALTH INSURANCE,
competing with private companies, haven't they had
FEDERAL FLOOD INSURANCE for decades?
@mchill saidSocialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor. In other words, Fascism.
When we give out billions to farmers, it's called "being fair" 🙂
When we give out billions to banks, it's called "good for the economy" 🙂
When we give out billions in grants, subsidies, and other corporate welfare goodies, to the fortune 500 it's called "Good for America" 🙂
When we give out $$ to the poor, the sick, and underprivileged, it's called "Socialism" ðŸ˜
It is called Fascism. Call it what it really is.
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@wildgrass saidWhere I grew up we had the lowest wealth inequality on Earth, and we also had a truly free-market ... not a fake free-market. All of our food was produced by local families and sold at family owned shops, and at a public square. You could go and pet the very same cow that produced your fresh milk (I actually did that). You had a dozen cheese makers and bread bakers, all competing to make the best cheeses and breads. Eggs, fruits and veggies were all locally grown, with profits going straight into the farmer's pockets. Now that was a free and healthy economy.
Holy moly now you're writing about promoting a socialist form of government in which food production is controlled by and paid for by the government? That's wacko.
@wildgrass saidSlanthead, this is why I said it is a conundrum. Hard too understand, I myself to do not understand it. I bet the farmers do!, no matter how they ended up being treated !
Holy moly now you're writing about promoting a socialist form of government in which food production is controlled by and paid for by the government? That's wacko.
@metal-brain saidBut what you are saying is NOT the definition of Facism. Just having freedom makes us Not-facism.
Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor. In other words, Fascism.
It is called Fascism. Call it what it really is.
@bunnyknight saidSign me up. I'll pay!
Where I grew up we had the lowest wealth inequality on Earth, and we also had a truly free-market ... not a fake free-market. All of our food was produced by local families and sold at family owned shops, and at a public square. You could go and pet the very same cow that produced your fresh milk (I actually did that). You had a dozen cheese makers and bread bakers, al ...[text shortened]... , with profits going straight into the farmer's pockets. Now that was a free and healthy economy.
@Metal-Brain
Ah, so let all those poor folks hit the road, send them all to AFGHANISTAN or Russia since they LOVE socialism SO much.
Yep, government money is ONLY for the rich so SCREW those poor folks who can't come up with the cash to live.
@Eladar
I believe you explicitly. Which is why it is a GOOD thing you have ZERO power.
You mentioned Putin, so I assume you figure you LOVE his form of government.
So why don't you move there, I can put in some money for your plane fare.
@sonhouse saidI mention Putin because he understands how corrupt politicians work. The US is a joke without free elections because there is no way to verify votes.
@Eladar
I believe you explicitly. Which is why it is a GOOD thing you have ZERO power.
You mentioned Putin, so I assume you figure you LOVE his form of government.
So why don't you move there, I can put in some money for your plane fare.
@averagejoe1 saidYes it is. What freedom?
But what you are saying is NOT the definition of Facism. Just having freedom makes us Not-facism.
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@Metal-Brain
For one, the freedom of people like you (assuming you ARE actual humans rather than a computer generated avatar) to make statements like you do on a regular basis.
Think about this:
How long would you live if you said the same things about Putin if you were living in Russia?
HMM?
Well of course, since you ADORE Putin, you would NEVER cross HIM.