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    In this video Hillary is asked what the difference is between being a socialist and a democrat. But she just babbles on about how she is not a socialist because "People need to work together to solve problems".. So I can only take this to mean that socialists don't "work together to solve our problems"

    Is this position even coherent? I can't make heads or tails out of this so I want Hillary or Bern supporters to see if they can splain it to me. It's OK if you are also incoherent but I present a chance to splain it all to me anyway.
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    08 Jan '16 14:10
    Originally posted by whodey
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26AXB8trgJU

    In this video Hillary is asked what the difference is between being a socialist and a democrat. But she just babbles on about how she is not a socialist because "People need to work together to solve problems".. So I can only take this to mean that socialists don't "work together to solve our problems"

    Is th ...[text shortened]... to me. It's OK if you are also incoherent but I present a chance to splain it all to me anyway.
    Socialiste will natiknalise the banks and, quite generally, the utilities and infrastructural maintenance.
    Democrats will not.

    Socialists, generally speaking, will not invade foreign countries to suit the oil and weapons companies.
    Democrats will.

    Socialists will nationalise medicine and education: completely.
    Democrats will not.

    Democrats will pledge allegience to the flag and thank God during speeches.
    Socialists will not.
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    08 Jan '16 15:05
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Socialiste will natiknalise the banks and, quite generally, the utilities and infrastructural maintenance.
    Democrats will not.

    Socialists, generally speaking, will not invade foreign countries to suit the oil and weapons companies.
    Democrats will.

    Socialists will nationalise medicine and education: completely.
    Democrats will not.

    Democrats will pledge allegience to the flag and thank God during speeches.
    Socialists will not.
    "Socialists will nationalise medicine and education: completely."
    no they won't. they will offer adequate healthcare to all to the best of that country's abilities but you will still have the option to go private healthcare.
    they will offer adequate education to all up to and including college level but you can still found a private university and anyone can still attend that private university if they prefer it.

    "Socialiste will natiknalise the banks and, quite generally, the utilities and infrastructural maintenance."
    ludicrous.

    "Socialists, generally speaking, will not invade foreign countries to suit the oil and weapons companies."
    being a socialist has nothing to do with how much of a warmonger you are.


    "Democrats will pledge allegience to the flag and thank God during speeches."
    still has nothing to do with being a democrat or a socialist, it is simply a part of american culture to demand faith in jesus from an elected official. the french are perfectly happy to elect an atheist president who changes girlfriends yearly.
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    08 Jan '16 15:09
    Originally posted by whodey
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26AXB8trgJU

    In this video Hillary is asked what the difference is between being a socialist and a democrat. But she just babbles on about how she is not a socialist because "People need to work together to solve problems".. So I can only take this to mean that socialists don't "work together to solve our problems"

    Is th ...[text shortened]... to me. It's OK if you are also incoherent but I present a chance to splain it all to me anyway.
    nobody said hillary was particularly coherent. still more coherent than any republican candidate though. which is not saying much, granted.

    americans are stupid because they will vote for hillary rather than bernie because they don't understand the word socialist
    americans are stupid because they chose 10 (or whatever that number was) monkeys, each worse than the last, to run for the republican nomination.

    thankfully, the americans are not stupid enough to vote for whoever gets the republican nomination rather than hillary so the world will just get a mediocre president who panders to the rich rather than a nutjob.
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    08 Jan '16 15:10
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    "Socialists will nationalise medicine and education: completely."
    no they won't. they will offer adequate healthcare to all to the best of that country's abilities but you will still have the option to go private healthcare.
    they will offer adequate education to all up to and including college level but you can still found a private university and anyon ...[text shortened]... al. the french are perfectly happy to elect an atheist president who changes girlfriends yearly.
    You obviously have no comprehension of what socialism is then.
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    08 Jan '16 15:19
    Originally posted by whodey
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26AXB8trgJU

    In this video Hillary is asked what the difference is between being a socialist and a democrat. But she just babbles on about how she is not a socialist because "People need to work together to solve problems".. So I can only take this to mean that socialists don't "work together to solve our problems"

    Is th ...[text shortened]... to me. It's OK if you are also incoherent but I present a chance to splain it all to me anyway.
    What Hillary is trying to get across is she and most Democrats tend to be more socialist in their approach to solving problems than Republicans. She cannot come out and say this however because "socialist" is a very dirty word in American politics, so she was forced to talk around the subject.

    It's amazing to me that someone has to spell this out for you Whodey. Anyone with a room temperature I.Q. could figure that out. 😞
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    08 Jan '16 15:302 edits
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    nobody said hillary was particularly coherent. still more coherent than any republican candidate though. which is not saying much, granted.

    americans are stupid because they will vote for hillary rather than bernie because they don't understand the word socialist
    americans are stupid because they chose 10 (or whatever that number was) monkeys, each wor ...[text shortened]... ry so the world will just get a mediocre president who panders to the rich rather than a nutjob.
    What about Bernie Sanders the self proclaimed socialist. Will you vote for him or the autistic/incoherent Hillary?
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    08 Jan '16 15:32
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    You obviously have no comprehension of what socialism is then.
    Why don't Dims just come out and say they want to take over everything?

    What could possibly go wrong?
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    08 Jan '16 15:35
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Socialiste will natiknalise the banks and, quite generally, the utilities and infrastructural maintenance.
    Democrats will not.

    Socialists, generally speaking, will not invade foreign countries to suit the oil and weapons companies.
    Democrats will.

    Socialists will nationalise medicine and education: completely.
    Democrats will not.

    Democrats will pledge allegience to the flag and thank God during speeches.
    Socialists will not.
    This is why the Scandinavian countries have a superior life style to all but the top 1% of U.S. Citizens.
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    08 Jan '16 15:40
    Originally posted by whodey
    What about Bernie Sanders the self proclaimed socialist. Will you vote for him or the autistic/incoherent Hillary?
    In my heart I want to vote for Bernie. However, because most in the U.S. are extraordinarily ignorant, I fear he cannot win. Hilary is articulate, intelligent, well versed in both foreign and domestic affairs and is a liberal. She probably has better connections than Bernie, which might play out as being able to get more done in D.C. The entire roster of Republican candidates is an embarrassment.
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    08 Jan '16 15:47
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    You obviously have no comprehension of what socialism is then.
    not communism like you said
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    08 Jan '16 15:49
    Originally posted by Phranny
    This is why the Scandinavian countries have a superior life style to all but the top 1% of U.S. Citizens.
    dude it's not true.

    sweeden nationalized SOME banks and only as a last measure in an economic crisis. they still have private schools and private healthcare. they still have a military. they don't go to war because they don't care for it, not because they are socialists.
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    08 Jan '16 15:54
    Originally posted by whodey
    What about Bernie Sanders the self proclaimed socialist. Will you vote for him or the autistic/incoherent Hillary?
    "Bernie Sanders the self proclaimed socialist"
    bernie is a socialist-democrat. he mentioned that again and again to be sure people thinking socialism is communism understand that he is not going to establish the Soviet States of America.

    "Will you vote for him or the autistic/incoherent Hillary?"
    yes, i would vote for him.
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    08 Jan '16 16:16
    Just to be clear... I am a socialist / communist.
    I think nationalising banks is a good thing.
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    08 Jan '16 16:22
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Just to be clear... I am a socialist / communist.
    I think nationalising banks is a good thing.
    i am sure you have a new, intelligent way of making that work.
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