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  1. 21 Dec '14 13:15
    http://www.iflscience.com/environment/what-would-happen-climate-if-we-stopped-emitting-greenhouse-gases-today

    "What would happen to the climate if we were to stop emitting carbon dioxide today, right now? Would we return to the climate of our elders? The simple answer is no.

    Only after many millennia will it return to rocks, for example, through the formation of calcium carbonate – limestone – as marine organisms' shells settle to the bottom of the ocean. But on time spans relevant to humans, once released the carbon dioxide is in our environment essentially forever. It does not go away, unless we, ourselves, remove it.

    If we stop emitting today, it’s not the end of the story for global warming. There’s a delay in temperature increase as the climate catches up with all the carbon that’s in the atmosphere. After maybe 40 more years, the climate will stabilize at a temperature higher than what was normal for previous generations."
  2. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    21 Dec '14 13:26
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    http://www.iflscience.com/environment/what-would-happen-climate-if-we-stopped-emitting-greenhouse-gases-today

    "What would happen to the climate if we were to stop emitting carbon dioxide today, right now? Would we return to the climate of our elders? The simple answer is no.

    Only after many millennia will it return to rocks, for example, through the ...[text shortened]... e climate will stabilize at a temperature higher than what was normal for previous generations."
    We've heard this point of no return stuff before, the control freaks don't like it. If the point of no return has been passed all their rules and regulations are pointless. So they distance themselves from it and adjust the point of no return as often as they adjust their dire forecasts.
  3. 21 Dec '14 14:02
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    We've heard this point of no return stuff before, the control freaks don't like it. If the point of no return has been passed all their rules and regulations are pointless. So they distance themselves from it and adjust the point of no return as often as they adjust their dire forecasts.
    according to the articles, we pass points of no return constantly. the point is that when the consequences of our industry become unbearable and we decide to stop, we would still have decades of coping with THAT climate until things start getting better.


    so yes, start making improvements now and deal with slightly worse hurricanes occasionally and all the other mild issues (though still alarming) or have our grandchildren deal with yearly Katrinas, possible disappearance of the gulfstream (and its disastrous consequences), rising sea levels, etc.


    no matter when we do these changes, it will require a level of sacrifice. how much of a sacrifice is very much dependent on the date.
  4. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    23 Dec '14 07:22
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/18888-embarrassing-predictions-haunt-the-global-warming-industry
  5. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    23 Dec '14 10:33
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/18888-embarrassing-predictions-haunt-the-global-warming-industry
    Your source would appear to be an organ of the John Birch Society, which has a fairly consistent track record:
    The organization claims to identify with a particular type of Christian principles, seeks to limit governmental powers, and opposes wealth redistribution, and economic interventionism. It opposes collectivism, totalitarianism, and communism. It opposes socialism as well, which it asserts is infiltrating U.S. governmental administration. ...

    The society opposed the 1960s civil rights movement and claimed the movement had communists in important positions.
  6. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    23 Dec '14 13:41
    Originally posted by finnegan
    Your source would appear to be an organ of the John Birch Society, which has a fairly consistent track record:
    The organization claims to identify with a particular type of Christian principles, seeks to limit governmental powers, and opposes wealth redistribution, and economic interventionism. It opposes collectivism, totalitarianism, and communism. ...[text shortened]... s civil rights movement and claimed the movement had communists in important positions.
    Nothing against what was cited in the article, guess that all stands. Better to angle for some diversion then.
  7. 23 Dec '14 17:10
    Water vapor is a greenhouse gas, just saying.
  8. 23 Dec '14 17:23
    Originally posted by finnegan
    Your source would appear to be an organ of the John Birch Society, which has a fairly consistent track record:
    The organization claims to identify with a particular type of Christian principles, seeks to limit governmental powers, and opposes wealth redistribution, and economic interventionism. It opposes collectivism, totalitarianism, and communism. ...[text shortened]... s civil rights movement and claimed the movement had communists in important positions.
    I am not a John Birch member, but I do remember that they are almost always right.
  9. 23 Dec '14 17:24
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    http://www.iflscience.com/environment/what-would-happen-climate-if-we-stopped-emitting-greenhouse-gases-today

    "What would happen to the climate if we were to stop emitting carbon dioxide today, right now? Would we return to the climate of our elders? The simple answer is no.

    Only after many millennia will it return to rocks, for example, through the ...[text shortened]... e climate will stabilize at a temperature higher than what was normal for previous generations."
    Do your part and stop breathing!