21 Dec 14
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/what-would-happen-climate-if-we-stopped-emitting-greenhouse-gases-today
"What would happen to the climate if we were to stop emitting carbon dioxide today, right now? Would we return to the climate of our elders? The simple answer is no.
Only after many millennia will it return to rocks, for example, through the formation of calcium carbonate – limestone – as marine organisms' shells settle to the bottom of the ocean. But on time spans relevant to humans, once released the carbon dioxide is in our environment essentially forever. It does not go away, unless we, ourselves, remove it.
If we stop emitting today, it’s not the end of the story for global warming. There’s a delay in temperature increase as the climate catches up with all the carbon that’s in the atmosphere. After maybe 40 more years, the climate will stabilize at a temperature higher than what was normal for previous generations."
21 Dec 14
Originally posted by ZahlanziWe've heard this point of no return stuff before, the control freaks don't like it. If the point of no return has been passed all their rules and regulations are pointless. So they distance themselves from it and adjust the point of no return as often as they adjust their dire forecasts.
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/what-would-happen-climate-if-we-stopped-emitting-greenhouse-gases-today
"What would happen to the climate if we were to stop emitting carbon dioxide today, right now? Would we return to the climate of our elders? The simple answer is no.
Only after many millennia will it return to rocks, for example, through the ...[text shortened]... e climate will stabilize at a temperature higher than what was normal for previous generations."
21 Dec 14
Originally posted by Wajomaaccording to the articles, we pass points of no return constantly. the point is that when the consequences of our industry become unbearable and we decide to stop, we would still have decades of coping with THAT climate until things start getting better.
We've heard this point of no return stuff before, the control freaks don't like it. If the point of no return has been passed all their rules and regulations are pointless. So they distance themselves from it and adjust the point of no return as often as they adjust their dire forecasts.
so yes, start making improvements now and deal with slightly worse hurricanes occasionally and all the other mild issues (though still alarming) or have our grandchildren deal with yearly Katrinas, possible disappearance of the gulfstream (and its disastrous consequences), rising sea levels, etc.
no matter when we do these changes, it will require a level of sacrifice. how much of a sacrifice is very much dependent on the date.
23 Dec 14
Originally posted by WajomaYour source would appear to be an organ of the John Birch Society, which has a fairly consistent track record:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/18888-embarrassing-predictions-haunt-the-global-warming-industry
The organization claims to identify with a particular type of Christian principles, seeks to limit governmental powers, and opposes wealth redistribution, and economic interventionism. It opposes collectivism, totalitarianism, and communism. It opposes socialism as well, which it asserts is infiltrating U.S. governmental administration. ...
The society opposed the 1960s civil rights movement and claimed the movement had communists in important positions.
23 Dec 14
Originally posted by finneganNothing against what was cited in the article, guess that all stands. Better to angle for some diversion then.
Your source would appear to be an organ of the John Birch Society, which has a fairly consistent track record:The organization claims to identify with a particular type of Christian principles, seeks to limit governmental powers, and opposes wealth redistribution, and economic interventionism. It opposes collectivism, totalitarianism, and communism. ...[text shortened]... s civil rights movement and claimed the movement had communists in important positions.
23 Dec 14
Originally posted by finneganI am not a John Birch member, but I do remember that they are almost always right.
Your source would appear to be an organ of the John Birch Society, which has a fairly consistent track record:The organization claims to identify with a particular type of Christian principles, seeks to limit governmental powers, and opposes wealth redistribution, and economic interventionism. It opposes collectivism, totalitarianism, and communism. ...[text shortened]... s civil rights movement and claimed the movement had communists in important positions.
23 Dec 14
Originally posted by ZahlanziDo your part and stop breathing! 😵
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/what-would-happen-climate-if-we-stopped-emitting-greenhouse-gases-today
"What would happen to the climate if we were to stop emitting carbon dioxide today, right now? Would we return to the climate of our elders? The simple answer is no.
Only after many millennia will it return to rocks, for example, through the ...[text shortened]... e climate will stabilize at a temperature higher than what was normal for previous generations."