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what year ends arctic ice in summer? Bets?

what year ends arctic ice in summer? Bets?

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So what will be the first year there is no ice in the arctic in the summer?
2020? later? before?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
So what will be the first year there is no ice in the arctic in the summer?
2020? later? before?
The Arctic will have ice in summer for as long as refrigerators continue to exist.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
The Arctic will have ice in summer for as long as refrigerators continue to exist.
LOL CFCs

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
LOL CFCs
WTF?

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Originally posted by Varg
WTF?
Translation: [I'm] laughing out loud...chloroflurocarbons!

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Translation: [I'm] laughing out loud...chloroflurocarbons!
You broke the sequence.
Acronyms rule.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
LOL CFCs
Actually, CFC's are the least of our problem now. Methane is about
20 times more of an ozone destroyer pound for pound as CFC
and the CO2 levels are getting frighteningly high. Methane seems to
come mainly from cow burps so we are drowning in our own poop.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Actually, CFC's are the least of our problem now. Methane is about
20 times more of an ozone destroyer pound for pound as CFC
and the CO2 levels are getting frighteningly high. Methane seems to
come mainly from cow burps so we are drowning in our own poop.
Not to mention rain forest being ploughed over for the sake of more methane-farting cows.

People say cover the Earth in concrete. I say leather it over.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Actually, CFC's are the least of our problem now. Methane is about
20 times more of an ozone destroyer pound for pound as CFC
and the CO2 levels are getting frighteningly high. Methane seems to
come mainly from cow burps so we are drowning in our own poop.
A single CFC molecule can continue 'destroying' ozone for up to 50 years after it reaches the upper atmosphere.

From memory, methane doesn't interact with the ozone layer but instead contributes to the global warming effect.

PS pound for pound isn't a very useful phrase when talking about two gases.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
A single CFC molecule can continue 'destroying' ozone for up to 50 years after it reaches the upper atmosphere.

From memory, methane doesn't interact with the ozone layer but instead contributes to the global warming effect.

PS pound for pound isn't a very useful phrase when talking about two gases.
My mistake, methane is greenhouse gas more potent than CO2.
You would maybe like me to say molecule for molecule?
If I say that I can express that in pounds can I not?
So 0.000000000001 pound of methane is 20 times more potent
a greenhouse gas than 0.000000000001 pound of CO2. Better?🙂