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Where do you draw the line?

Where do you draw the line?

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We’ve got human rights, charters, the Geneva convention, etc.

We’ve got terrorists, terrorist nations and countries which commit the same activities, but call it all collatoral damage.

As if there is murder and murder, but one sort of murder is more acceptable than another.

Nina is 5 years old. She is not a criminal, she has just started reading, she plays in the wendy house with her best friend and she doesn’t like cabbage.

Where do you draw the line when it’s acceptable to kill her or not?

See, I draw the line at: Don’t kill bloody children (unless they’re screaming on a plane… joke… chill).
But I hear lots of arguments on the forum that it’s perfectly okay to kill little Nina.

Now, I understand hatred and I comprehend revenge, but at which point should I be allowed to burn, 5 year old, Nina to death?

At which point can the police enter a kindergarden to arrest a paedophile and shoot Nina in the process?

It is when the Paedophile uses her as a shield? Or randomly trying to shoot him and Nina and Barbie are accidentally in the way?

Say there is a drug lord at a party. And you bomb the party to get him. Is it okay that innocent little Nina is just collatoral damage?

I’m just wondering where you draw the line.
And if it’s the same line you’d draw if Nina was your cute little 5 year old, in a dress, drawing dragons and princesses.


@shavixmir said
We’ve got human rights, charters, the Geneva convention, etc.

We’ve got terrorists, terrorist nations and countries which commit the same activities, but call it all collatoral damage.

As if there is murder and murder, but one sort of murder is more acceptable than another.

Nina is 5 years old. She is not a criminal, she has just started reading, she plays in the w ...[text shortened]... line you’d draw if Nina was your cute little 5 year old, in a dress, drawing dragons and princesses.
If you dont want your children to die, then dont start wars. Wars kill the innocent as well.

And its not about what is acceptable or unacceptable. It is about solving the problem of terrorists starting wars, committing the most heinous and gruesome acts of rape and murder against innocent children, and then shouting dont kill my children. Well F..K that sh.t. You started it, now suck it up ... both you and your f..king kids are going to die.

You are a blooming hypocrite, and your analogy about the pedophile is rubbish.

So the answer is, there is no line, when you start the war by killing innocent. You are all going to heaven to get 36 virgins.


@Rajk999 said
If you dont want your children to die, then dont start wars. Wars kill the innocent as well.

And its not about what is acceptable or unacceptable. It is about solving the problem of terrorists starting wars, committing the most heinous and gruesome acts of rape and murder against innocent children, and then shouting dont kill my children. Well F..K that sh.t. You start ...[text shortened]... no line, when you start the war by killing innocent. You are all going to heaven to get 36 virgins.
Yes. We’ll nust ignore your input and wait for normal people to respond.

Why? Because this thread is about what is acceptable or not. It’s about what you think is or is not allowed to kill Nina.

Your argument seems to be that if America bombed Iran, it’s perfectly acceptable for Iranians to kill American children in Amsterdam.

You will obviously comprehend that it’s completely unacceptable.


@shavixmir said
Yes. We’ll nust ignore your input and wait for normal people to respond.

Why? Because this thread is about what is acceptable or not. It’s about what you think is or is not allowed to kill Nina.

Your argument seems to be that if America bombed Iran, it’s perfectly acceptable for Iranians to kill American children in Amsterdam.

You will obviously comprehend that it’s completely unacceptable.
Actually, I am normal and you are a twisted supporter of terrorism, because of your hatred of America and Israel.

Re Nina, it depends on who Nina is. Is she sitting on the lap of a Hamas leader and being used as a human sheild, or in a building used to fire rocket launchers into Israel? Then she will die, and it is the fault of her parents or the adults who are in charge or her welfare. Her life is not the responsibility of the people who were attacked by her deranged parents.

If America bombed civilians and targeted, raped, killed and tortured Iranian civilians, and took Iranian hostages and tortured them, then YES, by all means Americans can be targeted. But that is not the case.

Why not try to present believable scenarios which are more truthful, and in line with the facts of these situations instead of this nonsense, about Nina and pedophiles.


@shavixmir said

Nina
Here is a more realistic account of who Nina is ..

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Nina is 5 years old. She is not a criminal, she has just started reading, she plays in the wendy house with her best friend and she doesn’t like cabbage. Sadly for Nina, her parents and neighbours, just finished torturing, raping and murdering some Jewish children across the fence. Nina wants to leave home and live in some other country, but her parents want to use her as a human sheild, because the Israelis will not target her directly if she stands in front of the adults. Unfortunately Nina is forced to stay near the bombs and line of fire. She is also told that killing Jews and/or dying and being a martyr for Islam is the surest way to go to heaven and get eternal life.
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@shavixmir said
We’ve got human rights, charters, the Geneva convention, etc.

We’ve got terrorists, terrorist nations and countries which commit the same activities, but call it all collatoral damage.

As if there is murder and murder, but one sort of murder is more acceptable than another.

Nina is 5 years old. She is not a criminal, she has just started reading, she plays in the w ...[text shortened]... line you’d draw if Nina was your cute little 5 year old, in a dress, drawing dragons and princesses.
If Nina is with the territory of a nation, then ALL persons within that jurisdiction are obligated to help protect her rights; AND to ensure that that happens, those people create and fund a government which has as it's sole mission to protect Nina's rights and the rights of all other persons within their jurisdiction equally. Nina's right to life (i.e. go on living) is chief 'sine qua non' among those rights. 🙂


@spruce112358 said
If Nina is with the territory of a nation, then ALL persons within that jurisdiction are obligated to help protect her rights; AND to ensure that that happens, those people create and fund a government which has as it's sole mission to protect Nina's rights and the rights of all other persons within their jurisdiction equally. Nina's right to life (i.e. go on living) is chief 'sine qua non' among those rights. 🙂
A bit of nonsense there ... why does it have to be a nation? Humans all over the world protect their young, even animals. Affording protection to each other is the responsibility of all people ie parents, neighbours, leaders and other institutions, even if it is not a nation.

In the case of Gaza, the Arabs were placing their children in harms way as shields. This is contrary to human nature and is a clear indication that Palestinian Arabs are worse than animals in that regard. They placed military hardware in homes, hospitals, schools and mosques, causing the IDF to return fire to the source and thereby kill their own people, so that blame will fall on Israel. They are evil SOBs.


@shavixmir said
We’ve got human rights, charters, the Geneva convention, etc.

We’ve got terrorists, terrorist nations and countries which commit the same activities, but call it all collatoral damage.

As if there is murder and murder, but one sort of murder is more acceptable than another.

Nina is 5 years old. She is not a criminal, she has just started reading, she plays in the w ...[text shortened]... line you’d draw if Nina was your cute little 5 year old, in a dress, drawing dragons and princesses.
Really enlightening. OK everyone everyone vote. Should we approve of killing Nina?😙🤔🤔


@spruce112358 said
If Nina is with the territory of a nation, then ALL persons within that jurisdiction are obligated to help protect her rights; AND to ensure that that happens, those people create and fund a government which has as it's sole mission to protect Nina's rights and the rights of all other persons within their jurisdiction equally. Nina's right to life (i.e. go on living) is chief 'sine qua non' among those rights. 🙂
Palestinians have tried for 80 years to constitute a government that will protect Nina's rights. Israel has stopped them from doing that using military force because mumble mumble something something AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!! 😆

Then last Wednesday, the Israelis kicked in Nina's door and shot her in the head along with her family.

Let's vote whether or not that should happen, @AverageJoe1. 😆


@spruce112358 said
Palestinians have tried for 80 years to constitute a government that will protect Nina's rights. Israel has stopped them from doing that using military force because mumble mumble something something AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!! 😆

Then last Wednesday, the Israelis kicked in Nina's door and shot her in the head along with her family.

Let's vote whether or not that should happen, @AverageJoe1. 😆
That sounds like Oct 7th, except that the stinking Arabs, raped little girls and microwaved them, while the parents watched. GTFO with that garbage spruce.


@Rajk999 said
That sounds like Oct 7th, except that the stinking Arabs, raped little girls and microwaved them, while the parents watched. GTFO with that garbage spruce.
Stop trying to rule over them. 😆


@spruce112358 said
Stop trying to rule over them. 😆
Animals need to be controlled and ruled. Now if they behaved like human beings they would have had their own state by now, because humans would have accepted the 1948 partition of the UN and humans would have lived in peace alongside the Jews.


@spruce112358 said
Stop trying to rule over them. 😆
Better to have radicle Muslims rule over them ehh? Get them child brides going


@Mott-The-Hoople said
Better to have radicle Muslims rule over them ehh? Get them child brides going
Not your problem. 😆


@Rajk999 said
Animals need to be controlled and ruled. Now if they behaved like human beings they would have had their own state by now, because humans would have accepted the 1948 partition of the UN and humans would have lived in peace alongside the Jews.
Nope. Stop trying to rule over them. 😆