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@mott-the-hoople saidSo he could have unilaterally raised the debt ceiling?
obama was president, he ran the show...but its not his fault in a lib mind,,,gotcha
Presidents in the US aren't dictators though right wingers seem to yearn for one.
@no1marauder saidIt is his job to bring the two sides to an agreement.
So he could have unilaterally raised the debt ceiling?
Presidents in the US aren't dictators though right wingers seem to yearn for one.
Funny you should mention the debt ceiling...the dems right now are discussing raising it on their own,
@mott-the-hoople saidLike the Republicans could have in 2011 and avoided the S&P downgrade?
It is his job to bring the two sides to an agreement.
Funny you should mention the debt ceiling...the dems right now are discussing raising it on their own,
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Congress has always acted when called upon to raise the debt limit. Since 1960, Congress has acted 78 separate times to permanently raise, temporarily extend, or revise the definition of the debt limit.
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And you people think this is a Democrat/Republican problem???
Get friggin' real.
@kmax87 saidA proper concept, invest a dollar, make $1.50. I'd go along with that, we'd have to see the numbers. But forget not the 'unintended consequences'. You will have that immigrant labor, but a large percentage would not be doing the labor, can't even speak English, so it is THAT crowd that would offset any positive returns on that created by labor.
How much do illegals contribute to the economy of the USA. I thought that without illegal immigrant labor, certain large sectors of the US economy would tank. So in pure business capitalist terms, surely whatever illegal immigrants receive from the US taxpayer, as a return on investment, don't they overwhelmingly give more than they get!?
Wandering around sucking up all the welfare in Texas, and then on to Kansas, then Indiana, and so it will go. Eating and using our meds all the way.
Remember....Open Borders and Welfare cannot co-exist. I can just see the scales leaning the wrong way not long from now.
@no1marauder saidSorry, I was just ribbing you that I have posted LINKS, I seemingly have succumbed. I certainly hope that you clicked on every one.
Why are you calling out me? I don't favor illegal immigration.
@earl-of-trumps saidTheir immoral vote-buying will easily sweep them right along.
@AverageJoe1
Joe, we all know what's at stake here. Democrat POWER.
That defines and ends everything.
@no1marauder saidYou must be a liberal. Did you know that AOC says that 5+Trillion is not enough? She, like you, seems to think that we have money. Ahhh, to be a liberal.
The USA is far from "bankrupt" BTW.
She like you also thinks that taxing the rich big time will garner enough money to get in the black. Even if it did, which is impossible, it would kill off the golden goose,...... where will you folks and your really strong leaders go on the next round?
@mott-the-hoople saidThanks, Mott. And Marauder thanks you, he loves links.
so this didnt happen?
Under obama...
"The United States lost its top-tier AAA credit rating from Standard & Poor’s on Friday in an unprecedented blow to the world’s largest economy in the wake of a political battle that took the country to the brink of default.
The move reflects the deterioration in the global economic standing of the United States, which has h ...[text shortened]... rve currency status."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-debt-downgrade-idUSTRE7746VF20110807
@averagejoe1 saidWe know your opinion is that adoption of anything that displeases rich folks will destroy the country.
You must be a liberal. Did you know that AOC says that 5+Trillion is not enough? She, like you, seems to think that we have money. Ahhh, to be a liberal.
She like you also thinks that taxing the rich big time will garner enough money to get in the black. Even if it did, which is impossible, it would kill off the golden goose,...... where will you folks and your really strong leaders go on the next round?
The spending increases proposed in Bernie's budget are less than 2% of GNP. It should be child's play to find sufficient tax revenue to finance that considering how much top rates and corporate taxes have been reduced in the last 40 years. And it will buy and expand programs which the People support.
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@no1marauder saidThe People. Brrrrrr
We know your opinion is that adoption of anything that displeases rich folks will destroy the country.
The spending increases proposed in Bernie's budget are less than 2% of GNP. It should be child's play to find sufficient tax revenue to finance that considering how much top rates and corporate taxes have been reduced in the last 40 years. And it will buy and expand programs which the People support.
Did you see above where Zahlanzi said I was selfish, when I constantly remind you all that I think we should totally support the 40M destitute in this country? Does he want us to support other people as well? I wish he would close his points.
A confusing lot.
@averagejoe1 said"when I constantly remind you all that I think we should totally support the 40M destitute in this country?"
The People. Brrrrrr
Did you see above where Zahlanzi said I was selfish, when I constantly remind you all that I think we should totally support the 40M destitute in this country? Does he want us to support other people as well? I wish he would close his points.
A confusing lot.
are you lying again?
@zahlanzi saidWill someone jump in here and tell this foreigner that I have said that on many occasions? It makes sense, why would I not say it? But what will amaze you, Zajhlanzi, is that everyone else should take care of themselves. That's a tough one for libs.
"when I constantly remind you all that I think we should totally support the 40M destitute in this country?"
are you lying again?