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  1. 12 Dec '09 05:33
    Please respond intelligently.
  2. Standard member joneschr
    Some guy
    12 Dec '09 06:41
    Monaco, because it has the highest popluation density.
  3. 12 Dec '09 07:14
    Originally posted by joneschr
    Monaco.
    are you being serious?
  4. 12 Dec '09 07:15
    Originally posted by EmLasker
    Please respond intelligently.
    Which country do you consider to be the most overpopulated?
  5. Standard member joneschr
    Some guy
    12 Dec '09 07:48 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by trev33
    are you being serious?
    Yes. Are you? Isn't overpopulation, by definition, high population density?
  6. 12 Dec '09 07:54
    darfur
  7. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    12 Dec '09 09:22
    Originally posted by joneschr
    Isn't overpopulation, by definition, high population density?
    No. The 'over' prefix means "too...". Monaco has no problem whatsoever supporting its own population density.
  8. 12 Dec '09 09:44
    Originally posted by joneschr
    Yes. Are you? Isn't overpopulation, by definition, high population density?
    No, overpopulation means there are more people in a certain area than can be sustained for longer periods of time. I don't think that applies to any country in the world, though there are population-related issues like pollution - but even a country like Bangladesh should have no problems sustaining their high population density on the long term, taking into account future growth of the economy and efficiency in food production.
  9. Standard member joneschr
    Some guy
    12 Dec '09 15:44
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    No, overpopulation means there are more people in a certain area than can be sustained for longer periods of time. I don't think that applies to any country in the world, though there are population-related issues like pollution - but even a country like Bangladesh should have no problems sustaining their high population density on the long term, taking into account future growth of the economy and efficiency in food production.
    Exactly, so it comes right back to population density.
  10. 12 Dec '09 16:32
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    No, overpopulation means there are more people in a certain area than can be sustained for longer periods of time. I don't think that applies to any country in the world, though there are population-related issues like pollution - but even a country like Bangladesh should have no problems sustaining their high population density on the long term, taking into account future growth of the economy and efficiency in food production.
    Are you talking about life sustainment alone or are you also taking quality of life into consideration. China has many, many problems associated with overpopulation.
  11. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    13 Dec '09 04:24
    Originally posted by EmLasker
    Please respond intelligently.
    Probably Indonesia and India along with some of the others in south Asia.

    That's without really thinking about it too much though.
  12. 13 Dec '09 04:53 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    No. The 'over' prefix means "too...". Monaco has no problem whatsoever supporting its own population density.
    Thread 122840

    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    Newsweek this week has a possibly more up-to-date table, for foreign debt per capita, on the back page this week but i couldn't find an online version.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

    Rank ↓ Country - Entity ↓ External debt
    (millions US$) ↓ Date of information ↓ External debt
    per capita (US$) ↓ Date of population* ↓ External debt (% of GDP) ↓
    73 Monaco $18,000 2000 $540,000 2000 est. 1843.70%
    7 Ireland $1,841,000 6/30/2007 $448,032 30-Jun-08 960.86%
    32 Iceland $116,053[6] 6/30/2009 $362,942 2008 998.64%[7]
    9 Switzerland $1,340,000 6/30/2007 $174,526 30-Jun-07 441.95%
    2 United Kingdom $12,670,000[citation needed] 6/24/2009 $174,167 July 2008 374.96%
    6 Netherlands $2,277,000 6/30/2007 $136,795 30-Jun-07 352.75%
    10 Belgium $1,313,000 6/30/2007 $126,202 30-Jun-07 348.74%
    18 Norway $469,100 6/30/2007 $98,530 30-Jun-07 190.23%
    14 Austria $752,500 6/30/2007 $90,289 30-Jun-07 233.70%
    17 Denmark $492,600 6/30/2007 $89,853 30-Jun-07 242.30%
    16 Hong Kong $588,000 2007 $84,445 2007 est. 200.48%
    4 France $4,396,000 6/30/2007 $68,183 30-Jun-07 211.86%
    15 Sweden $598,200 6/30/2006 $65,048 30-Jun-06 176.72%
    3 Germany $4,489,000 6/30/2007 $54,604 30-Jun-07 159.92%
    22 Finland $271,200 6/30/2007 $51,073 30-Jun-07 143.95%
    5 Spain $2,478,000 9/30/2008 $49,619 30 June 2007 est. 150.65%
    19 Portugal $461,200 12/31/2007 $43,196 30-Jun-07 188.63%
    1 United States[3] $13,773,000 6/30/2009 $42,343 31-March-08 95%
    12 Australia $826,400 12/31/2007 $38,798 30-Jun-07 106.91%
    57 Latvia $33,530 12/31/2007 $36,944 30-Jun-07 83.72%
    64 Cyprus $26,970 12/31/2007 $30,550 31 December 2007 est. 126.03%
    13 Canada $781,100 12/31/2008 $23,325 01-Jul-09 59.69%

    ...[/b]
  13. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    13 Dec '09 05:32
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    Thread 122840

    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    Newsweek this week has a possibly more up-to-date table, for foreign debt per capita, on the back page this week but i couldn't find an online version.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

    Rank ↓ Country - Entity ↓ External debt
    (millions ...[text shortened]... er 2007 est. 126.03%
    13 Canada $781,100 12/31/2008 $23,325 01-Jul-09 59.69%

    ...
    [/b]
    This cut and paste of yours was a dud on the other thread too.
  14. 13 Dec '09 05:42
    Originally posted by FMF
    This cut and paste of yours was a dud on the other thread too.
    well, yes, but i don't like to explain things too much. this is a chess site, after all!

    but just for you ... re your comment "Monaco has no problem whatsoever supporting its own population density." ...

    Monaco tops the list.

    the last column: External debt (% of GDP).

    73 Monaco $18,000 2000 $540,000 2000 est. 1843.70%
  15. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    13 Dec '09 06:10
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    well, yes, but i don't like to explain things too much. this is a chess site, after all!

    but just for you ... re your comment "Monaco has no problem whatsoever supporting its own population density." ...

    Monaco tops the list.

    the last column: External debt (% of GDP).

    73 Monaco $18,000 2000 $540,000 2000 est. 1843.70%
    Level of debt is not relevant to whether a country is "overpopulated". And it's certainly not relevant to Monaco nor to its rate of population density. One might just as well cite things like "high life expectancy" or "reliance on tourism" as indicators of being "overpopulated". You should bear in mind the structure and speciality of Monaco's economy.