So, why don't you start a good debate about something that is close to your heart, such as extra-marital affairs or student tuition? Make a case and I will respond - and I promise it will not include any religion! - CalJust
If a person cheats on his/her spouse, how immoral is it for the cheater, and for the "other person", and how does this vary by circumstance? (e.g. abusive spouse, telling the spouse that the sexual exclusiveness is over first, etc).
My feeling is that the married person who cheats is breaking a promise he/she made with someone who loves him/her. It's a promise that the other person has based his/her life around, and it's really wrong to break that vow. Now if the marriage is really not going to work, they shouldn't have married in the first place, but if it's really not going to work, at least the person should tell the spouse that they've decided to break the promise. Doing it in secret is really messed up. If the husband/wife knows ahead of time, then it's not nearly as bad. If the relationship was abusive, it's not nearly as bad.
Now as for the "other man/woman", this person is not nearly as immoral. There's some small immorality there because he/she is helping someone hurt and betray someone else, but it's not nearly as big a deal because the person never made the promise, don't know the spouse (I am assuming this - if "the other person" knows the spouse, then you've got issues with betraying that relationship that are separate from the adultery issues), and has no marriage commitment or loyalty to that person. So, it's a minorly immoral act for the "other person".
I will be amazed if people can keep their views on religion out of this one.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWell, I think the thrill of danger, of getting caught is what
What else are we going to debate about extra-marital affairs?
Is the sex in extra-marital affairs hotter than sex between married people or singles doing singles?
makes it exciting or 'hotter' as you say.
At least, that's one of the things that psychologists say
about those who cheat on their spouses.
Nemesio
remember the quote, i wouldnot expect my wife to do that she kisses my kids, sex and sexual practices are humans weakness, history shows the same desires time and time again, Genraly tho adultry is a vow made in church before god so lieing to god is sinful. other vows are to the partner so your lieing to your partner. one should divorce before going on . sadly this is vary rarely
Originally posted by stokerThat makes no sense. Please punctuate.
remember the quote, i wouldnot expect my wife to do that she kisses my kids, sex and sexual practices are humans weakness, history shows the same desires time and time again, Genraly tho adultry is a vow made in church before god so lieing to god is sinful. other vows are to the partner so your lieing to your partner. one should divorce before going on . sadly this is vary rarely
Originally posted by AThousandYoungJust a reminder:
Would you explain the definition of 'sin' and it's relation to morality?
taken from another thread for the inspiration of this one
So, why don't you start a good debate about something that is close to your heart, such as extra-marital affairs or student tuition? Make a case and I will respond - and I promise it will not include any religion! - CalJust
I note
1) 'sin' seems to be on the path to a religious discussion.
2) CalJust has not made good on his promise for ten days.
(I note that his last post was on 15 December, so he may
be away from the computer; either way, he had six days
to make good).
Nemesio
If a person cheats on his/her spouse, how immoral is it for the cheater, and for the "other person", and how does this vary by circumstance? (e.g. abusive spouse, telling the spouse that the sexual exclusiveness is over first, etc).Not immoral at all. If people want to have sex then it is their decision. The rest of us should keep our noses out of everyones business. Of course, their long-term partner may have something to say, but again, it is their business. Morality is a subjective concept and should not be defined by religion or government - morality and legality are seperate issues. My morality is not defined by "Christian Values", then again it is not defined by "British Values" - it is defined by my own views and beliefs.
Mark
Originally posted by mmanuelSo if your wife cheated on you, then you wouldn't think she acted immorally?
Not immoral at all. If people want to have sex then it is their decision. The rest of us should keep our noses out of everyones business. Of course, their long-term partner may have something to say, but again, it is their business. Morality is a subjective concept and should not be defined by religion or government - morality and legality are seperate issue ...[text shortened]... in it is not defined by "British Values" - it is defined by my own views and beliefs.
Mark
Is anything immoral in your opinion mmanuel?
Originally posted by AThousandYoungi would promote extra marital sex but not affairs - no emotional involvement - just like getting somebody to help you out in a time of need - either that or swap hands
What else are we going to debate about extra-marital affairs?
Is the sex in extra-marital affairs hotter than sex between married people or singles doing singles?
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