So worried about a VP that quote has no experience,does not stand for what republicans believe in, has a household in termoil.
Why do you think that Palin has struck such a nerve with the dems.
Just on this site alone I counted 2 threads on the Dem. VP and 11 threads (I believe 7 negative) about Palin. Also the news on tv does not seem to cover the big news in Iraq with the turnover to Iraqi troops in Anbar. Or the ties with Obama and Ayers or Rezko who are known criminals. Instead they are covering a teen pregnancy in the Palin house and a DWI from 22 years ago.
What is your opinion on the matter.
Originally posted by SeitseNo I did hear about that but I never seen it also heard abot the pics of Palins daughter with her first alleged baby in 2005, again though that had its five mins of airtime unlike this baby crap.
Because that low are "hollywood politics" in the U.S.
Forgot the big fuss about Obama's pic with a traditional Nigerian costume?
But what I'm saying is there is a real story in corruption and Anbar and terrorist activity but to me not so much as a Bratney like baby story, it is far to sad.
Originally posted by torch71I understand where you're trying to aim, and I share your concern.
No I did hear about that but I never seen it also heard abot the pics of Palins daughter with her first alleged baby in 2005, again though that had its five mins of airtime unlike this baby crap.
But what I'm saying is there is a real story in corruption and Anbar and terrorist activity but to me not so much as a Bratney like baby story, it is far to sad.
Let's be honest: U.S. politics have been prostituted and converted into a show, a TV-Internet-Radio-Newspaper war of fast paced insults and gossip, setting aside the discussion of real issues and, most importantly, ideas.
A reflection of this is also the very poor misconceptions regarding what dems stand for and what reps stand for. Do they have a real platform? Is there really a clash of ideas or is it simply about the idea everybody has about each party and its members?
Originally posted by SeitseAgreed, people need to start shouting out and be heard. It is a sad period in America when gossip is the big news and repoters are completely usless in reporting the real news. I do fear Obama becoming President because of all the very odd ties with people that are unsavory to say the least, and it conserns me very much that the news of today is very agenda driven to only show what they want you to see.
I understand where you're trying to aim, and I share your concern.
Let's be honest: U.S. politics have been prostituted and converted into a show, a TV-Internet-Radio-Newspaper war of fast paced insults and gossip, setting aside the discussion of real issues and, [b]most importantly, ideas.
A reflection of this is also the very poor misconceptions r ...[text shortened]... clash of ideas or is it simply about the idea everybody has about each party and its members?[/b]
Originally posted by torch71I believe what is happening in this thread is what should happen in the U.S. political arena.
Agreed, people need to start shouting out and be heard. It is a sad period in America when gossip is the big news and repoters are completely usless in reporting the real news. I do fear Obama becoming President because of all the very odd ties with people that are unsavory to say the least, and it conserns me very much that the news of today is very agenda driven to only show what they want you to see.
I think opposite to you re: the candidates. Although Obama is not a saint (nobody is in politics, lol), I fear the ties of McCain to the same associates as Bush/Cheney. However, we both agree in something: the level of debate must be lifted from gossip into real arguments in the major scenarios of U.S. society. Despite our differences, we agree, and we agree in a core, trascendental problem.
Sadly, it is not like that, yet the media conglomerate keeps cashing in with gossip and below-the-belt punches.
Originally posted by torch71they probably wonder why mccain would pick a vp who apparently is not so good. they must think the old goat has something up his sleeve and the uncertainty is killing them.
So worried about a VP that quote has no experience,does not stand for what republicans believe in, has a household in termoil.
Why do you think that Palin has struck such a nerve with the dems.
Just on this site alone I counted 2 threads on the Dem. VP and 11 threads (I believe 7 negative) about Palin. Also the news on tv does not seem to cover the big ...[text shortened]... regnancy in the Palin house and a DWI from 22 years ago.
What is your opinion on the matter.
Democrats and other sensible people realize that McCain's VP choice is a clear indication that his maverick ways are a myth. If he is elected President, he will nominate unqualified, right-wing ideologues to important positions of power where they can help move the United States back into the Dark Ages. Democrats and other sensible people are not yet ready to write off the United States as a nation with a future--and perhaps yet becoming the beacon for liberty that it has always fancied itself to be. Democrats and other sensible people know that the campaign is underway, and it's time to get talking about the talking points that matter, and McCain's VP choice is the talking point of the moment.
Of course, several of the threads in question are the result of the sort of garbage that every woman in politics must endure. As most chess players are male, and most males are sorta one-dimensional when it comes to women, and as Palin is not that hard on the eyes (even though she'll steal your soul), and as folks here hide behind ridiculous names like Wulebgr, all sorts of garbage and nonsense gets spewed.
I wouldn't mind going moose hunting with the guv'ner. One, we'd likely be successful if she's guiding. Two, after hunting all day, we could sit around the campfire and argue politics all night. It would be like fishing with my father-in-law: good daytime killing, nonsense at night.
Originally posted by torch71He has already demonstrated to me that he has the wisdom to seek advice from worthy people. For example, his campaign team is a top notch ensemble. Similarly, he made a smart choice in his VP.
Curious then what do you think of Obama?
Contrast that with George W., who picked very experience people but also from very extreme wings of the Republican party (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc. etc.). I think the results speak for themselves there.
Originally posted by torch71Counting the negative threads - the 'left' are still behind the 'right by a factor of 2 to 1 ... and that's just taking DSR's threads into account.
So worried about a VP that quote has no experience,does not stand for what republicans believe in, has a household in termoil.
Why do you think that Palin has struck such a nerve with the dems.
Just on this site alone I counted 2 threads on the Dem. VP and 11 threads (I believe 7 negative) about Palin. Also the news on tv does not seem to cover the big ...[text shortened]... regnancy in the Palin house and a DWI from 22 years ago.
What is your opinion on the matter.
Originally posted by MrHandSee I have to disagree. McCain chosen more of a human being as opposed Obama chosing someone who has ridden the do nothing train in congress for years.
He has already demonstrated to me that he has the wisdom to seek advice from worthy people. For example, his campaign team is a top notch ensemble. Similarly, he made a smart choice in his VP.
Contrast that with George W., who picked very experience people but also from very extreme wings of the Republican party (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc. etc.). I think the results speak for themselves there.
In my opinion we need fresh blood in Government and get rid of the people that just ride the free train for enjoyment of the power. Look at the congress now democrat and repulicans alike. They are useless!! Pelosi said when she became the speaker said she would make sure oil shortages would be adrressed and again nothing. I am for term limits as well.