https://www.marketplace.org/2021/01/19/why-rich-people-tend-think-they-deserve-their-money/
A very funny experiment (and somewhat worrisome too).
Someone made an experiment where they paired random people for a game of monopoly (barf). The twist was that one of them, decided through a coin flip at the start of the game, was allowed to roll two dice instead of one and received 200 fake money instead of 100 when they passed Go. This meant that they got a chance at the best properties faster and they got to pass Go more often, receiving free money.
Quote from the article:
“So one possibility is that rich players are kind of embarrassed by the situation, doing what they can to help out this other person who undeservedly is a poor player — and that’s actually the opposite of what we found,” said Paul Piff, the psychologist who conducted the experiment.
In various ways — through body language and boasting about their wealth, by smacking their pieces loudly against the playing board and making light of their opponents’ misfortune — the rich players began to act as though they deserved the good fortune that was largely a result of their lucky roll of the dice.
At the end of the game, when researchers asked the rich players why they had won the game, not one person attributed it to luck.
“They don’t talk about the flip of the coin. They talk about the things that they did. They talk about their acumen, they talk about their competencies, they talk about this decision or that decision,” that contributed to their win, Piff said in an interview with host David Brancaccio.
I found about the experiment from the newest some more news episode. Here is another link for most to ignore:
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08 Apr 23
@zahlanzi saidI look forward to seeing it tonight. But let me say that chess is the only game where there is no luck. The guy was lucky to start with by receiving the extra money and going forward from there. Had he not gotten to roll an extra die, the results would not have been the same.
https://www.marketplace.org/2021/01/19/why-rich-people-tend-think-they-deserve-their-money/
A very funny experiment (and somewhat worrisome too).
Someone made an experiment where they paired random people for a game of monopoly (barf). The twist was that one of them, decided through a coin flip at the start of the game, was allowed to roll two dice instead of one and ...[text shortened]... nother link for most to ignore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP2EKTCngiM&ab_channel=SomeMoreNews
@zahlanzi saidInteresting that 'News Dude" bought up the subject of scrooge McDuck amongst other cartoon characters, I've often claimed Walt Disney comics is where lefties learn their economics, they actually picture rich people as an Uncle Scrooge, filling their swimming pool with money and diving in it. The truth is they can't allow their money to sit still for a minute because the goobermint attacks it with inflation tax, so if they don't do it themselves they have to hire people to invest it for them.
https://www.marketplace.org/2021/01/19/why-rich-people-tend-think-they-deserve-their-money/
A very funny experiment (and somewhat worrisome too).
Someone made an experiment where they paired random people for a game of monopoly (barf). The twist was that one of them, decided through a coin flip at the start of the game, was allowed to roll two dice instead of one and ...[text shortened]... nother link for most to ignore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP2EKTCngiM&ab_channel=SomeMoreNews
If it's not Walt Disney comics then isn't one of your favorite sources, beside the unfunny guy in your vid, cracked humor magazine, I recall you posting articles and links to this fine intellectual publication.
So we have Scrooge McDuck, Cracked Humor magazine (the low rent retard brother of Mad Magazine) an internet funny guy and (as zahlooney bamboozle rightfully calls it) 'fake money' being the childs sandpit in which we're supposed to find and define not only economics but psychology and culture as well.
@suzianne saidthat's not important. the point was that one player received double the dice roll and double the pass go salary. decided randomly at the start
Wait a minute, just wait a minute.
The normal rules for Monopoly enable each player to roll two die and to collect $200 when passing Go.
So I don't get what kind of shenanigans this is.
@zahlanzi saidzahlooney bamboozle, does it matter which edition of monopoly it is, for eg would it work for the "Despicable Me Edition" with minions or the "Looney Tunes Limited Collectors Edition" with Bugs Bunny and Tweety Bird?
that's not important. the point was that one player received double the dice roll and double the pass go salary. decided randomly at the start
How would it be if there were a Walt Disney Edition, not sure there has been that collaboration but then one of the players might be Scrooge McDuck, and the other player only gettin $100 might be...?...who...Donald?
What do you think would happen if the go pass go money was trebled. Would the 'rich' player bang their pieces down even harder on the board, namely 50% harder?
While on the subject of the money, is it actual fake money or fake fake money?
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@averagejoe1 saidThat. Was. The. Fricking. Point.
I look forward to seeing it tonight. But let me say that chess is the only game where there is no luck. The guy was lucky to start with by receiving the extra money and going forward from there. Had he not gotten to roll an extra die, the results would not have been the same.
Now apply that to rich people in real life, and what do you get?
@shallow-blue saidRich people play this ridiculous Monopoly game? I'm pretty sure they just sit back smoking cigars, sipping cognac and command their servants to throw the dice and move the pieces and to swipe some money from the bank when no ones looking.
That. Was. The. Fricking. Point.
Now apply that to rich people in real life, and what do you get?
Something to consider here is copyright infringement. Altering the rules of the game and using it for commercial game.
BTW London Monopoly Board Pub crawl, now there's a way to get wrecked, only drinking halves that's thirteen pints. We attempted it back in the day but no one could remember what happened or if anyone finished or why I woke up the next morning with no money at Wembley Park tube station.
Edit: and without my monopoly board, the idea being the barman would sign your board at each pub. So a total loss; money, board and memory ;^)
10 Apr 23
@shallow-blue saidId be willing to wager that if the rules were evened among players halfway through the game that the lucky ones at the beginning would start yelling 'socialism' and wining/dining SCOTUS judges until the rules were switched back in their favor.
That. Was. The. Fricking. Point.
Now apply that to rich people in real life, and what do you get?
10 Apr 23
@zahlanzi saidIs the take away from this that no one in the US works any harder than anyone else?
https://www.marketplace.org/2021/01/19/why-rich-people-tend-think-they-deserve-their-money/
A very funny experiment (and somewhat worrisome too).
Someone made an experiment where they paired random people for a game of monopoly (barf). The twist was that one of them, decided through a coin flip at the start of the game, was allowed to roll two dice instead of one and ...[text shortened]... nother link for most to ignore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP2EKTCngiM&ab_channel=SomeMoreNews
If that's not the take away, what action should come from this study?
10 Apr 23
@techsouth said"Is the take away from this that no one in the US works any harder than anyone else?"
Is the take away from this that no one in the US works any harder than anyone else?
If that's not the take away, what action should come from this study?
I am guessing you would be one of the people praising the double dicer's hard work.
No, the take away from this is not that hard work doesn't equal success. Sometimes it helps. Sometimes it's not even an issue.
The point of this experiment was to see if there are people who would still be oblivious to how much luck plays into their success, even when it is right in their faces. Even in a controlled environment, with most factors taken out, many failed to see that the main reason for their success was that initial spark of fortune, that gave them a leg up over their competitors.
Billionaires often fail to acknowledge this. Either intentionally because they want the plebs to think the game is totally fair, that they too can become a part of the club if they just work hard enough. Either unintentionally, because they are narcissistic self absorbed bastards who think themselves geniuses, uber mensch bending the universe through sheer will power.
@zahlanzi saidZahlooney bamboozle in this monopoly game what is analogous to 'work', the throwing of the dice? Because if it is, the 'rich' guy has to heft twice as much as the poor guy, he has to work twice as hard.
I am guessing you would be one of the people praising the double dicer's hard work.
What is analogous to what? A couple of points, the monopoly board is very limited and nothing like the abundant opportunities (limited by goobermint regulations) of the real world. The double throw is more analogous to someone having a natural ability, or to working harder thus moving faster. Surely to make your point it would be better if some players 'inherited' a number of properties at the beginning, then measure how hard these players banged down their pieces down:
"smacking their pieces loudly against the playing board..."
I've seen some players bang their pieces down quite firmly too, particularly when they land on my Park Lane with motels, something like you banging your keyboard. How do you distinguish one type of board banging from another board banging? Is the banging pieces firmly on the board really an indication of anything?
11 Apr 23
@wajoma saidMy God, our resident fascist farts again.
Zahlooney bamboozle in this monopoly game what is analogous to 'work', the throwing of the dice? Because if it is, the 'rich' guy has to heft twice as much as the poor guy, he has to work twice as hard.
What is analogous to what? A couple of points, the monopoly board is very limited and nothing like the abundant opportunities (limited by goobermint regulations) of the rea ...[text shortened]... m another board banging? Is the banging pieces firmly on the board really an indication of anything?
Ayn Rand is complete claptrap. Try to get that into your thick skull.
The rational human being… hahahaha
11 Apr 23
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@zahlanzi saidBut it wasn't double. It was normal.
that's not important. the point was that one player received double the dice roll and double the pass go salary. decided randomly at the start
Did you mean one player gets half?
11 Apr 23
@suzianne saidwhy is everyone so hung up on the actual monopoly rules used.
But it wasn't double. It was normal.
Did you mean one player gets half?
the important premise was that one player had an unfair advantage (specifically they get double the dice rolls and double the pass go sum) and it was decided which that player is completely by chance and the result of the experiment was that a lot of these lucky players failed to acknowledge just how much chance (outside factors) played into their success.